HIDs installed on TDI

[gregozedobe]

Have had them installed for 4 days now, and haven't been flashed once, so I'm guessing they arent too bright/glarey for oncoming traffic.

..........I chose H7 bulbs (mains) with a 10,000K colour.

If by "mains" you mean Hi beam, then you are only running HIDs on hi beam (and therefore std halogens on lo beam), if there is someone coming the other way you should be on lo beam, so HIDs are swithed off, hence no dazzle. Or have I misinterpreted what you wrote ?

HID globes can cause a lot of scattered light if installed in reflectors/lenses that aren't designed specifically for the different geometry and dimensions of the HID arc (the bit that actually produces light). This scattered light dazzles other drivers, which is why doing an aftermarket conversion to lo beam is both illegal and often very annoying. Some halogen lights (usually ones with projector lenses) seem to produce a better controlled lo beam with HID globes (less glare and dazzle).

I have no problem with hi beam HID conversions, even if they are technically still illegal.

Whether people flash their light at you or not is a poor indicator of how dazzling your lights are. My Octavia (OEM HIDs) came with the lights adjusted WAY too high, and must have been blinding oncoming drivers when I went over crests, but not one person flashed me in the two weeks it took to get the dealer to adjust them down (you need VCDS or the dealer tool to adjust them, so I couldn't fix it myself)

[Logzy]

have you driven in poor weather conditions (ie foggy, heavy rain) with these 10000K headlights?

my bet is, you wont be able to see shizer!!

+1 .

[Big Yellow]

If by "mains" you mean Hi beam, then you are only running HIDs on hi beam (and therefore std halogens on lo beam), if there is someone coming the other way you should be on lo beam, so HIDs are swithed off, hence no dazzle. Or have I misinterpreted what you wrote ?

HID globes can cause a lot of scattered light if installed in reflectors/lenses that aren't designed specifically for the different geometry and dimensions of the HID arc (the bit that actually produces light). This scattered light dazzles other drivers, which is why doing an aftermarket conversion to lo beam is both illegal and often very annoying. Some halogen lights (usually ones with projector lenses) seem to produce a better controlled lo beam with HID globes (less glare and dazzle).

I have no problem with hi beam HID conversions, even if they are technically still illegal.

Whether people flash their light at you or not is a poor indicator of how dazzling your lights are. My Octavia (OEM HIDs) came with the lights adjusted WAY too high, and must have been blinding oncoming drivers when I went over crests, but not one person flashed me in the two weeks it took to get the dealer to adjust them down (you need VCDS or the dealer tool to adjust them, so I couldn't fix it myself)

I thought there were little screws marked with "+" and "-" that you could turn to adjust the height of the lights? maybe different in the Skoda.

[Greg Roles]

Ahh all you naysayers.... good on you for modding your car mate. Not everyone figured the near $2k option for factory lights was good value, even though I wish I had them!

Just do your level best to keep them friendly on low beam, and then no-one needs get upset. Sure the odd lancer with aftermarket HID's near blinds me, but I find all the tossers in their bitumen SUV's with their fog lights on much more numerous, and annoying!

And since when did half you guys, with modded cars, worry 100% about legalities? Make sure you don't speed getting your library books back on time!

[Big Yellow]

Ahh all you naysayers.... good on you for modding your car mate. Not everyone figured the near $2k option for factory lights was good value, even though I wish I had them!

Just do your level best to keep them friendly on low beam, and then no-one needs get upset. Sure the odd lancer with aftermarket HID's near blinds me, but I find all the tossers in their bitumen SUV's with their fog lights on much more numerous, and annoying!

And since when did half you guys, with modded cars, worry 100% about legalities? Make sure you don't speed getting your library books back on time!

Cog, I agree with your comments, but I think with modding the lights, it is a very obvious mod that CAN affect other drivers quite easily and dangerous if on-coming traffic are blinded by blaring light.

Not putting the OP down, but I think 10000K is way too extreme for everyday driving and would actually make your own driving worse at night as your visibility is reduced.

[TDIESEL]

And since when did half you guys, with modded cars, worry 100% about legalities?

LMAO...well said. It's only illegal if you get caught isn't it?

[Maverick]

LMAO...well said. It's only illegal if you get caught isn't it?

There's an ever so slight difference between a mod that may be technically illegal but doesn't affect the safety of the car or other drivers and one that is clearly illegal, blinds other drivers, puts out less usable light and reduces visibility in the dark.

And this is before you look at the insurance and roadworthy issues not to mention that they stick out to the police unlike many suspension/engine mods.

[locosam]

I never got the chance to option the bi xenons since my car was already on the floor, but even if i had, im not sure i wouldve spent the 2k extra for the option. So for me, im really interested in the diy hid upgrade.

I see lots of different hid upgrades on older cars and rarely do i get blinded by them. like cog dog, im more annoyed by fog lights than i am hids!

My modding days are over and the only mods i want to do to my golf is a chip and hid's, so i might go the projector headlight option. but before that, i would probably get the hid kit first before getting the projectors and then seeing if i would need to get the projectors later.

nick sixx, which adaptors did you get? im thinking about getting the bosch hid kit and then just getting whatever else i need to get them going. Its kind of confusing though and each forum seems to have different instructions to do it.

[nick_sixx]

http://www.golfmk5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48211

that is pretty much exactly how mine turned out.

I am 110% sure that these lights are brighter, after a highly scientific experimental drive over mt coot-tha last night (no street lamps, surrounded by forest, etc). They easily light up as far as high beams, but at about 1/4 of the height.

I am also sure that they are not blinding oncoming traffic as I made my girlfriend drive my car up my street towards me while i stood in the opposite lane, and there is little to no overspill.

[BarneyBoy]

Personally I think all the usual objections should be put up as a Sticky and banned from being mentioned ever again.

That way members don't have to troll through all the same posts about washers, levellers, reflector angles and doohickee warnings.

I think we all know that technically after market HIDs contravene ADRs. But as mentioned above, so do many/most of the mods done by members on this and other forums. Tinting, exhausts, ECU flashing, suspension mods all can/are not allowable if ADRs are followed to the letter. And since car companies invest heavily in paying to comply with ADRs and we don't, just try proving that your new CAI doesn't increase tailpipe emissions or whatever.

The OP has stated that he's aware of the implications, so maybe we should stop bashing him over the head?

[faisan]

Personally I think all the usual objections should be put up as a Sticky and banned from being mentioned ever again.

That way members don't have to troll through all the same posts about washers, levellers, reflector angles and doohickee warnings.

I agree 100%

What someone wants to do to their car is up to them.

[Greg Roles]

Group hug.

So can I pleeeeeaase have a 1.4 TSI payout sticky??

[BarneyBoy]

Group hug.

So can I pleeeeeaase have a 1.4 TSI payout sticky??

We don't have one??????

[VW Convert]

Personally I think all the usual objections should be put up as a Sticky and banned from being mentioned ever again.

That way members don't have to troll through all the same posts about washers, levellers, reflector angles and doohickee warnings.

I think we all know that technically after market HIDs contravene ADRs. But as mentioned above, so do many/most of the mods done by members on this and other forums. Tinting, exhausts, ECU flashing, suspension mods all can/are not allowable if ADRs are followed to the letter. And since car companies invest heavily in paying to comply with ADRs and we don't, just try proving that your new CAI doesn't increase tailpipe emissions or whatever.

The OP has stated that he's aware of the implications, so maybe we should stop bashing him over the head?

I agree that the subject has been done to death, but in the interests of fairness, if you wish to ban the objections from being mentioned, then it follows that any supportive comments should also be banned; in short, ban the topic from discussion in any way shape or form.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Cheers

George

[BarneyBoy]

I know what you're getting at, but at least the supportive comments and the mods vary somewhat from one to the other.
The negative ones could have been cut and pasted from any one of 100 other posts.

I don't have an opinion about HIDs one way or another from a personal standpoint, it's just wearysome to the point where it's useless even looking at a thread because you just KNOW what half the replies are going to be. You have to plough through a lot of similar posts to get to the information that this forum is supposed to provide.

I think the point is that maybe we could separate informative comments from judgemental comments. And it seems that the higher the cost of the VW option, the more judgemental folks get about aftermarket options. You only have to read threads about HIDs, SatNav, leather seats &c to get my drift.

Anyhow, this thread's fully jacked - I'll butt out now...