Chip / Reflash for Pirelli GTi

[smoothcall]

How much you get paid to push that!?



APR couldn't even fit James G in for 15 minutes to have his stock file put back on even though he has to drive 200kms to get there. They then pushed him back 1 week.




Dude, GIAC have tunes for the K04 kits. Does the Pirelli not run a K04?? So how can they not have a tune?

Does their tune require any hardware updates that the Pirelli doesn't have? Not clear from their web site - might require a cat back, might not.

Why would you bother when there are at least 3 alternatives available for Oz with specific packages for the ED30/Pirelli?

[Maverick]

How much you get paid to push that!?



APR couldn't even fit James G in for 15 minutes to have his stock file put back on even though he has to drive 200kms to get there. They then pushed him back 1 week.

Let's not post porkies!

James missed the appointment because of his dodgy boost guage install, then went to the VW dealer and told them that he had a trial flash :duh, the APR dealer wasn't able to fit him in that afternoon and James wasn't going to Perth for another 2 weeks so made the appointment then.

The problem isn't the APR dealer but that James doesn't want to do the drive outside his set days.

The APR dealer has other customers who booked in and he can't go around delaying other customers if he has a full day.

It's not the APR dealers fault that James lives a few hours away or that he missed their appointment.

[Big Yellow]

Let's not post porkies!

James missed the appointment because of his dodgy boost guage install, then went to the VW dealer and told them that he had a trial flash :duh, the APR dealer wasn't able to fit him in that afternoon and James wasn't going to Perth for another 2 weeks so made the appointment then.

The problem isn't the APR dealer but that James doesn't want to do the drive outside his set days.

The APR dealer has other customers who booked in and he can't go around delaying other customers if he has a full day.

It's not the APR dealers fault that James lives a few hours away or that he missed their appointment.

Not entirely porkies Mav. I'm not trying to start anything with you here.

True he missed his appointment due to his boost gauge, but if APR prides itself on such exemplary customer service, surely they could have fitted the 15 minutes or so to flash him back to stock, knowing that he had to travel 200kms to get there. Mav, if you ran a business, and someone had to travel 200kms to get your help, would you turn them away even if it only took 15 minutes of your time?

[VW Convert]

I'm not trying to start anything with you here.

It is blatantly obvious that you are trying to start something. You have previously demonstrated your bias in favour of one of the chip suppliers and now wish to restart that argument.

I'm certain the majority of members on here do not wish to hear any more attacks on these companies EITHER WAY, especially as it is hearsay.

Now if you blokes have nothing positive to say, why not do us all a favour and say NOTHING.

Cheers

George

[Big Yellow]

It is blatantly obvious that you are trying to start something. You have previously demonstrated your bias in favour of one of the chip suppliers and now wish to restart that argument.

I'm certain the majority of members on here do not wish to hear any more attacks on these companies EITHER WAY, especially as it is hearsay.

Now if you blokes have nothing positive to say, why not do us all a favour and say NOTHING.

Cheers

George

LOL good one!

Everything I post I am accused of trying to start something or push GIAC products. But when someone else does it for APR etc, no one says anything.

For example, PirelliAC's CAPS LOCKED OBVIOUSLY BLATANT push for APR. Yet no one has a problem with it.

Then you have smoothcall with only 2 posts (all in this thread mind you) "doubting" GIAC has any product suitable for the Pirelli. And all I said was they do and now I'm trying to start something am I?

[gregozedobe]

CAN EVERYONE PLEASE TAKE A DEEP BREATH, SLOWLY COUNT TO 10 (or 10,000), CALM DOWN AND GROW UP ?

Anytime you let emotions take control of you on a web forum it is nearly always a bad thing. Just because someone is having a go at you doesn't mean you have to respond in kind.

People make choices for their cars, and they then have to live with the consequences of those choices. We can disagree, but if we could do it politely, without too much emotion and give rational justifications for our opinions, then on-line life would be so much easier.

If we can't, then the mods will just take to this thread with the delete button and/or close it (they've done it before, and I'm sure they will have to do it again).

[Maverick]

Not entirely porkies Mav. I'm not trying to start anything with you here.

True he missed his appointment due to his boost gauge, but if APR prides itself on such exemplary customer service, surely they could have fitted the 15 minutes or so to flash him back to stock, knowing that he had to travel 200kms to get there. Mav, if you ran a business, and someone had to travel 200kms to get your help, would you turn them away even if it only took 15 minutes of your time?

It would depend.

For a start it's not 15 minutes, you need to have an area clear for them, do the paperwork, connect the car up to APR HQ, download the correct flash for the car, load this onto the car, check that it's correctly worked, check for errors and so forth. Assuming no problems it's 30 minutes easily.

Now what if they run into problems? The next customer is then delayed and support from APR in the US would be unavailable as it would be after hours there. Support from APR on the other hand in the morning is there if there was a problem and they needed APR HQ's assistance.

So what would you do? Would you offer the flash in the morning at an agreed time where you have the time to do the work properly or would you do it whenever a customer wanted despite the additional risks of having to have the customer come back (knowing that it's a 2 hour drive)?

At the end of the day James missed his morning appointment, the APR dealer said he couldn't fit him in the afternoon, perhaps he had a full service centre, perhaps he was doing a number of rebuilds, perhaps he had a funeral to go to but he said it wasn't possible. If it were something else other then a flash back to stock that was more urgent then I'm sure they would help but in this case they were't able to and I'd bet that part of the reason is the support from APR timezone issue.

Without knowing the facts we can't say but to say the APR dealer is doing this on purpose (when James missed the appointment) is pointless.

[bj240z]

hey all

if the heavens are shining on me, there is a good chance ill be getting a Pirelli GTi very shortly.

I plan to chip it as most people do (or have), but only know of APR acknowledging the difference in engine and thus output after the flash.

My only concern is the other chip manufacturers from what ive seen (insert rival company here) only do chips for the regular GTis and maybe if they put a normal GTi reflash on the Pirelli, might not work correctly, maybe even damage the engine. (on a side note, im not a big fan of "off the shelf" tuning flashes).

I know about the GIACs self learning capabilities etc, and on their website they do list a TFSi with a High Pressure K04, but is it suitable? Whats high pressure? are they talking PSI as in high boost? Should i be looking at reflashes for S3 engines instead?

Are all the currently chipped Pirelli owners using APR???

cheers
dEx

This seemed like the best post to quote, as it was the most relevant to this thread

Anywho...I've got a Pirelli, and it's had the APR treatment. I'm quite happy with it, and didn't go searching for any alternatives, as it was a brand that I,and others I know, are comfortable with. The support from Glenn and Guy is just icing on the cake.

I always go with what i know, and what i don't know, i don't know, so i usually don't bother with it.

Peace!

BJ

[smoothcall]

Does anyone know how well these are shifting off the showroom floor? Did they miss the boat so to speak by introducing them so late in the life of the mk5 and only bring out DSG?

[Edra]

Does anyone know how well these are shifting off the showroom floor? Did they miss the boat so to speak by introducing them so late in the life of the mk5 and only bring out DSG?

No, due to the pirelli DSG being able to hit 100 kph in 2nd gear it is good for astoundingly fast low 5 second 0-100 times.
With ecu mod, 230 kw = 315+ hp and a motherload (430nm+) of torque which is what really counts.
check out an example of this 5.2 0-100kmh using launch control.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=BAAZu8N6QtQ

[99gti]

hahaha lolz your reply was completely off topic to question asked haha

Sorry, I dont see how you response adds any more value.

Try and keep this topic clean please. His response had merit.

[Guy_H]

Here are a couple of good German TUV certified figures to toss around:

http://www.oettinger.de/en/product-88/volkswagen-1/golf_5-23/engine_tuning-1/2_0_tfsi_169_kw_230_ps_243_kw_330_ps_gti_edition_30-212.html

http://www.oettinger.de/en/product-88/volkswagen-1/golf_5-23/engine_tuning-1/2_0_tfsi_169_kw_230_ps_224_kw_305_ps_gti_edition_30-214.html

With the TUV certification, they are required to road test & supply different figures - including top speed

[smoothcall]

No, due to the pirelli DSG being able to hit 100 kph in 2nd gear it is good for astoundingly fast low 5 second 0-100 times.
With ecu mod, 230 kw = 315+ hp and a motherload (430nm+) of torque which is what really counts.
check out an example of this 5.2 0-100kmh using launch control.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=BAAZu8N6QtQ

Agree they are good numbers - just seems a shame that they didn't give us the option of a manual. Mind you it might have saved me some money as I would have been tempted to upgrade otherwise.

Saw a black one yesterday on Punt road - very nice

[lincs]

Agree they are good numbers - just seems a shame that they didn't give us the option of a manual. Mind you it might have saved me some money as I would have been tempted to upgrade otherwise.

same here. took one for a test drive yesterday. they can keep their DSG. give me a clutch any day.

just waitin on the Mk6 GTI now... or GTI-R.. if the rumours are true.

[PirelliAC]

Here are a couple of good German TUV certified figures to toss around:

http://www.oettinger.de/en/product-88/volkswagen-1/golf_5-23/engine_tuning-1/2_0_tfsi_169_kw_230_ps_243_kw_330_ps_gti_edition_30-212.html

http://www.oettinger.de/en/product-88/volkswagen-1/golf_5-23/engine_tuning-1/2_0_tfsi_169_kw_230_ps_224_kw_305_ps_gti_edition_30-214.html

With the TUV certification, they are required to road test & supply different figures - including top speed

Is the oettinger flash worth the extra dollars considering its TUV certified?

How does it compare to the APR one on my Pirelli?