Most powerfull MK5 GTI in Australia ?

[Guy_H]

[QUOTE=Big Yellow;254278]

From memory, Andy's car did put down around 260kw atw on pump fuel.

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I still await your answers - I answered all your questions - you are avoiding all of mine - c'mon Terrance - join in We want to see the 260kw @ the wheels (as a nice comparison to all of my dyno's that have been posted)

If he has the dyno - email to us, we can post it up.

Thanks Andrew - Same - I don't think we will ever attend a "dyno day" again - we spend plenty of time at the dyno each month & we go to help out a forum event & this is what we get. Maybe next time we need a justice of the peace (maybe two incase one has been paid off) there as a dozen witness's are not reliable.

[RhysQ]

I'm asking because I've read on multiple unbiased forums that a few APR cars are not making anywhere near the power that they claim can be made.

So this instantly makes ALL APR cars figures not legit?

Guy, i think you just have to accept that nothing could possibly EVER be more powerful than GIAC .

I think the point is that whether something went wrong with the temp sensor and the figure showed higher, it was not intentional and these 'figure fudging' accusations should put right back where they came from and really an apology should be made for jumping to conclusions.

As far as i'm concerned, that figure was made on a dyno and that's where is stands... until next time! You have to remember people that this won't be the last dyno that car will ever do (well i'd hope not Guy). If the car reads significantly less on the next dyno day then we will all know why and the figure will be corrected. But if it reads this 'impossible' figure again, will we get the same 'jealous johns' on here criticising it for any reason imaginable or will you eat your words?

[Big Yellow]

If he wasn't banned than maybe he could have posted up!

I thought it was against forum rules to post on behalf of banned members.

[DaveMack]

If he wasn't banned than maybe he could have posted up!

I thought it was against forum rules to post on behalf of banned members.

That's a poor excuse. You could post it for him (just the read out ... not a speech).

Dave

[Tim]

The whole idea of a forums such as this is to create discussion surely.
Whilst dynos are posted on the internet they will always come into question.

Looking at Sebs post it does make sense to me. And the dyno scan its self says the Intake Temp was 243. Thats if im reading it correctly.

Whilst I see no point cheering for either side in a "debate". I am interested in the facts. Facts are how we all gain knowledge. Which again is why we are here isnt it?

Lets try and not turn this into a battle of APR vs GIAC fanboys

[Big Yellow]

Man where the hell did i say all APR figures were not legit. All i was saying is 300kw is a huge number for any car, not just for the GTI. And a few stage 3 kits in the US are not making anywhere near the power that APR claim they can make. I was just curious as to why they are not making these figures, but Guy can make 300kw.

Not once in these posts have i said anything was bull****. All i asked were questions as to how the figures were made in a open discussion. I haven't made any personal comments at all.

And if you cant handle questions directed at a product that you are selling, than maybe they're in the wrong business.

[Blitzen]

^^...The Mod has spoken...

If we can't trust a measuring device specifically developed to measure the power made by a vehicle(ieynometer), maybe we should go back to well calibrated ears for measurement instead.
Instead of using a Geiger Counter, lets just send in a bloke and see how quickly he succums to radiation poisoning to measure that.
Instead of using a Breath Tester, lets just use our nose to measure Blood Alcohol content.
The proof is there from the first party, yet the accusing parties are dancing around with nothing to be seen yet.

[Big Yellow]

We can trust it, if its been set up properly.....

[gtimk5]

Please post it up. Just to stop all the speculation.
Then we will see who cans his dyno reading

[Guy_H]

Now Terrance,

You ask me about our product that we sell - thats in Australia. Where do our cars not make the power? You say a "few" stage 3 cars in the US are not making numbers? What about the dozens & dozens that are?

Hell, a leaking DV or PCV valve can take lots of HP off a MK5. Where are our AUS cars not making the power?

Now you have been given full permission by the Mod's to post the Giac 260kw @ the wheels dyno - post it up - or in Seb's famous words "I call BS".

You have been called out out to provide it - so lets see it - we are all waiting.

[Big Yellow]

I'll post it, when he gets it to me.

On a further note, this was not intended to be a APR vs GIAC war.

Lets face it, we're not talking about a straight APR vs GIAC chip comparison. There are other factors like turbo set up etc. APR provide all the hardware for their stage 3 kit whereas on the GIAC cars, they have the VF turbo kits. So to say this is a fanboy war between APR and GIAC is wrong as there are other factors involved.

[Guy_H]

I'll post it, when he gets it to me.

On a further note, this was not intended to be a APR vs GIAC war.

Lets face it, we're not talking about a straight APR vs GIAC chip comparison. There are other factors like turbo set up etc. APR provide all the hardware for their stage 3 kit whereas on the GIAC cars, they have the VF turbo kits. So to say this is a fanboy war between APR and GIAC is wrong as there are other factors involved.

Allright, we will all wait for the graph then

[Big Yellow]

Allright, we will all wait for the graph then

Thats fine Guy, I will post when I get it.

And i'll happily eat my words if Andy's car doesnt put out the power that we saw last time.

But on another note, how many stage 3 kits have been sold in Australia and are making the power reliably that APR claim?

[PhilMart]

I would have had the opportunity to have my results picked apart till it was a bleeding mess on the floor.

Because, at the end of the day, a pat on the back is just a survey for a stabbing.

what do you do when you aren't picking the peanuts out of poo??

Lol Blitzen .. you should take up writing or poetry .. some of that stuff is gold!

[Big Yellow]

You ask me about our product that we sell - thats in Australia.Where do our cars not make the power?

I take your delayed/non response as confirmation that no Stage 3 kits have been sold in Australia, apart from your own car? If this is so, then I have no Australian figures to base my discussions on. Hence why I based my comments on what I have read from the US forums.

In that case, I believe your comments are quite contradictory, would you not agree?