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    Hi,

    I've just come across some posts talking about having the mirror dip on reverse in the MK5. The ability to activate this option seems to depend on the equipment fitted, and from what I can tell in US spec mk5s you need to have Seat Memory fitted, but apparently for Australian spec cars it will work with Reverse Parking sensors (which I have). Couldn't find any instructions on where to go from there, so I just checked the mirror dip checkbox in the central convenience module on VCDS. There is a message saying the control module is uninitialised, so I clicked Yes to fill the module with default values, and the coding is accepted, however the mirror does not dip (have tried with the switch in the O and L positions). Anyone activated this on their cars?

    Cheers,
    Michael
    2016 GTI 40 Years | 2012 Up! | 2006 Jetta - Sold

  • #2
    Mirror dip requires memory seats. That is where the position data for the mirror motors is stored.
    Parking sensors have nothing to do with it.
    The only other alternative is to install a Polar FIS which can emulate this function, but it's time based (ie move motor down .3sec, in .2sec or whatever so tends to creep it's position over time.
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    • #3
      My Pirelli edition has mirror dip, but no memory seats - although they are electrically adjustable. If memory serves (sorry, car is in storage), you need to have the mirror adjust selector clicked across to the left mirror for it to work.
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      • #4
        The passenger mirror is physically different, needs to have the mirror memory motor installed. On Australian cars this should've been installed as part of the factory parking sensors and enabled by default. Just need to put the mirror switch in L when you reverse and it should dip. Make sure the option is enabled in the MFD too.

        In the original Mk5 sales brochures it even states that the mirror dip function is part of the parking sensors option pack.

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        • #5
          Interesting, moving the switch to the left doesn't change anything, maybe my car does not have factory parking sensors - how can you tell? Also it is a 2006 Jetta with a midline cluster, so no way to enable through the MFD. Would the parking sensor option be specified on the sticker in the boot? Went on an options decoder and got the following back:

          X8C = National sales program Australia
          CM5 = Alloy wheels 6.5J x 16
          G0K = 6-speed manual transmission
          HH7 = Tires 205/55 R16 91V
          J1D = Battery 380 A (72 Ah)
          K8B = Notchback
          4UE = Air bag for driver and front seat passenger
          D2Z = 4-cyl. gasoline engine 2.0 L/110 kW 16V fuel-stratified injection, homogeneous base engine is T58
          U5G = Instrument insert, display in km/h for Australia
          1ZE = Disc brakes, front (Geomet D)
          V0A = Tires w/o specification of tire brand
          0A2 = 4 doors
          1AT = Electronic stabilization program (ESP)
          1G2 = Steel spare wheel with original equipment tires
          2ZB = Leather multi-function steering wheel
          2JC = Comfort bumpers
          5RV = Right exterior mirror: aspherical
          7K6 = Flat tire indicator
          2WA = Without additional tires
          5SJ = Left exterior mirror: convex
          0HM = Vehicle class differentiation -1KM- Build status corresponds to production in Mexico
          4X3 = Side air bag front with curtain air bag
          0GG = Emission standard EU4
          3L3 = Manual height adjustment for front seats
          3Q6 = Three rear headrests
          QG1 = Service interval prolongation
          3YR = Door pockets with insert mats
          4A0 = Without seat heater
          8BK = Twin headlight for driving on the left, with integrated high beam
          L07 = Suspension range 07 installation control only, no requirement forecast
          G57 = Front shock absorption
          8YL = Radio with CD player
          B0R = Component parts set, complying with vehicle type for Australia, various parts
          1N3 = Speed-related variable steering assist (Servotronic)
          3FA = Without roof insert (standard roof)
          4K3 = Radio remote controlled central locking operated from inside and safe securing
          4R4 = Power windows with comfort operation andcircuit breaker
          8Y1 = Two-tone horn
          8ZH = Antenna for AM/FM reception, "diversity"
          9AK = Climatronic with impact pressure control free of cfc
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          • #6
            Rear parking sensors were standard on all Jettas at that time so yours should definitely be factory fitted.

            Found this in the Australian Jetta brochure, however it is for the 2009 models...perhaps the mirror dip functionality was only added later in a model year update as this brochure also states front parking sensors are standard too.
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            One thing I can suggest is that if you want to check if you physically have the correct type of mirror capable of dipping is to pop the glass off it and examine the electrical connector which plugs into the glass adjuster. If it's a green plug with 7 wires in it then it's capable, if it's not and only has about 3 wires then it's not capable.
            Last edited by sebas_thefish; 04-11-2019, 10:09 PM. Reason: New info

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            • #7
              Can confirm no auto mirror dip on the Jetta without leather electric seats, on the 2006 version. At least you can adjust both mirrors at the same time.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by arcadelt View Post
                My Pirelli edition has mirror dip, but no memory seats - although they are electrically adjustable. If memory serves (sorry, car is in storage), you need to have the mirror adjust selector clicked across to the left mirror for it to work.
                I presume you have the factory parking sensors?

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                • #9
                  Yep. Had 2 of these cars with different trim levels, (FSI auto/cloth vs TFSI DSG/sunroof/xenon/cloth) but both factory parking (they all have this) and both cloth seats = no auto dip.
                  MK4 had the same issue, had to be electric auto seats, I was hopeful the MK5 had it standard, was disappointed.

                  Another feature I have not seen in AUS Jettas is auto parking, this was an option elsewhere I believe.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by sebas_thefish View Post
                    I presume you have the factory parking sensors?
                    Yes. Although it was listed as an option, all Australian delivered Pirelli Editions had them fitted.
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                    • #11
                      Interesting, so it seems as though that early mk5s need the memory seats but later ones just needed the sensors...

                      Originally posted by sebas_thefish View Post
                      Found this in the Australian Jetta brochure, however it is for the 2009 models...
                      Out of general curiosity, would you have a link to the brochure, wouldn't mind having a read of it.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MEL744 View Post
                        Interesting, so it seems as though that early mk5s need the memory seats but later ones just needed the sensors...
                        Out of general curiosity, would you have a link to the brochure, wouldn't mind having a read of it.
                        Jetta brochure - Volkswagen Australia

                        There seems to be a difference between the mirrors of the Golf and Jetta, the Mk5 Golfs have a different mirror with memory module integrated however maybe the early Jettas didn't and relied on the electric seat memory module whereas the later models adopted the memory module integrated into the mirror
                        Last edited by sebas_thefish; 05-11-2019, 09:24 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MEL744 View Post
                          Hi,

                          I've just come across some posts talking about having the mirror dip on reverse in the MK5. The ability to activate this option seems to depend on the equipment fitted, and from what I can tell in US spec mk5s you need to have Seat Memory fitted, but apparently for Australian spec cars it will work with Reverse Parking sensors (which I have). Couldn't find any instructions on where to go from there, so I just checked the mirror dip checkbox in the central convenience module on VCDS. There is a message saying the control module is uninitialised, so I clicked Yes to fill the module with default values, and the coding is accepted, however the mirror does not dip (have tried with the switch in the O and L positions). Anyone activated this on their cars?

                          Cheers,
                          Michael
                          My July 2006 built Jetta (delivered in oct 2006) has the mirror dip on the LHD mirror. It works perfectly although occasionally needs to be adjusted but I think this is because the wife forgets to turn the switch back from L to O and adjusts it because it's angled down.

                          Note mine was delivered with only metallic paint as an option. It's a 1KM diesel with the BKD engine.

                          I hope this helps.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by sebas_thefish View Post
                            Thanks!

                            Originally posted by BeigeJet View Post
                            My July 2006 built Jetta (delivered in oct 2006) has the mirror dip on the LHD mirror. It works perfectly although occasionally needs to be adjusted but I think this is because the wife forgets to turn the switch back from L to O and adjusts it because it's angled down.

                            Note mine was delivered with only metallic paint as an option. It's a 1KM diesel with the BKD engine.

                            I hope this helps.
                            Very interesting, thanks for replying! So it just has the cloth seats? Mine is an April build, going to have to look into this further I think.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BeigeJet View Post
                              My July 2006 built Jetta (delivered in oct 2006) has the mirror dip on the LHD mirror. It works perfectly although occasionally needs to be adjusted but I think this is because the wife forgets to turn the switch back from L to O and adjusts it because it's angled down.

                              Note mine was delivered with only metallic paint as an option. It's a 1KM diesel with the BKD engine.

                              I hope this helps.
                              No leather seats? This is getting odd...

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