just picked up R32 #42 :D

[Tommo_]

Hey Frank, how'd you go with getting your timing chain fixed up? I don't mind the black - black wheels, black headlights, black badges, black cupra r lip. Could look good! But not everyones cup of tea i guess...

[2times]

the car is currently at Pacific Motors. theyve had the car since 8:15 this morning. the first reason i am pissed off is because i had to ring them to get my quote of whats wrong and price to fix it. the second reason is that when i did ring them they had NO answers for me except theyll have to pull the motor out because the noise is coming from the lower chain. they said they cant start work until next wednesday, and they said they cant quote a price because once they "strip" the motor theyll fix everything thats wrong with it!
so i told him i dont have the money for that and that theyll do the chains and thats it, he once again said he cant give me a price because they dont know what needs to be replaced. i told them i will order the full ecs and they can put it in. he said he can actually give me a price for the labor for that, but i have to ring back.
not only am i so angry i feel sick because theyre trying to squeeze money out of when i told them thats all i wanted them to do and they also couldnt ring me to tell me! but im now ****ting bricks that i bought a dudd!

[JedR32]

Tell them to put it all back together and then take it to Arthur at Exoticars. He has more likely had MUCH more experience with MKIV R32's than Pacific and he will know what's going on. No, I haven't personally used him but I've only ever heard the highest of things about his work and Exoticars. The R32 is not an easy car for mechanics to get there head around if they haven't previously worked on them.

That's what I would do in your shoes at least. I had similar problems up here in QLD... and now go to a mechanic that services 90% of the MKIV R32s in Brisbane

[2000MN]

^^^^^^ THIS! Put it on a truck and take it to Arthur!!

[Big_M]

Sorry to hear about your dramas mate.

Unfortunately sometimes we learn the hard way. I'd be taking mine to some one who had been recommended to me even if it is a bit out of my way. Oh hang on thats what I do.

Hope it all works out for you.
If they haven't got it all pulled down I'd see about getting it back maybe cut my loses and speak to Arthur see if he can maybe help you out etc.

Hope you get it worked out mate.

[2times]

That's exactly what I'm doing! I rang exotic and spoke to a bloke called mark, who was much more helpful over the phone, except he never rang me back with his quote.
Doesn't matter though! Im not going back to pacific in pymble. They had no idea what was going on, I was down in the workshop with their supposed 'head' mechanic arguing with him about whether there was 2 or 3 chains. A quick google image search meant I got to prove him wrong and have my mind made up. It's bad enough they were trying to squeeze every dollar out of me, but to do that with out knowing what you're doing is a bit *****.
Ill ring exotic in parra again tomorrow get their price and just go there.

Does anyone know if the transmission actually has to come out to do the lower chain? Cause if it does I might get a clutch and fly wheel at the same time (pending how many pennies I can pinch)

[HaydEn]

just picked up R32 #42

Yes gearbox has to come off. Avoid the spec kits. Clutchmasters/southbend get good reviews.

I'd opt for a single mass flywheel; will make the car much more rev happy. But you more than likely will get a slight chatter when stopped at lights etc.


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[2000MN]

As Hayden mentioned, the box will need to come out to do the chains. You can speak to Arthur about clutch/flywheel options as I'm sure he has the ability to get something to suit.

Alternatively get in touch with Ben or Chris @ Tarmac Engineering, they sell the Southbend DXD kits and they're a great bit of hardware, they run a revised SMF so that chatter is minimal.. Jed runs this kit and loves it

[JedR32]

The Southbend/DxD kits are tops as far as feel go and reliability seems to be good to. The single mass flywheel makes heel-toeing a breeze, and the engine definitely likes revving up a little faster, and dropping revs a lot faster, however it does mean there is a fair bit of chatter. I'm currently awaiting a Fluidampr crank pulley harmonic balancer which is supposed to greatly reduce this as well as many other things.

The other option is to do what Corey and some others have. New stock flywheel and throwout bearing with a Sachs clutch. This seems o be another great option especially if the car does daily duties and regularly sees traffic etc.

[2times]

Yes gearbox has to come off. Avoid the spec kits. Clutchmasters/southbend get good reviews.

I'd opt for a single mass flywheel; will make the car much more rev happy. But you more than likely will get a slight chatter when stopped at lights etc.

what do you mean by "chatter"? is it a shaking? a noise? a combination of both? a slight shake im not too worried about. but if its going to be uncomfortable ill get dual mass. i was thinking if im replacing it, go single mass light weight because it does make a great difference for driving. but now youve got me worried about this chatter thing... just how bad is it?

im thinking ill just get this ecs kit. clutch master clutch and fidanza fly wheel at 8 pounds/3.6kgs is pretty good! also its the cheapest which is a big help Volkswagen R32 MKIV 3.2 Drivetrain Clutch ES#1844061 Stage 1 Clutch Kit - Aluminium Flywheel (8.5lbs.) - 02M6SPDS1KTWF
i looked at tarmac doing the southbend kits, but at 1400 before post id rather just get the ecs assembled kit.

booked it in today at exotic cars! theyre still not cheap, but came in $1000 less than pacific's starting price and they said theyll squeeze a bit out of it if i pay cash which is even better! its booked for the 30th

[HaydEn]

just picked up R32 #42

It's just like a faint ticking noise. For the benefits it's completely worth it.


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[JedR32]

Here is a video of the chatter noise from the outside. It is much quieter from inside
It's a little annoying but when you're on the loud pedal rowing up and down gears, the benefits outway the chatter.
Also the chatter only occurs when the clutch is out and you're in neutral, so if you're clutched in there is no noise

[2times]

It's just like a faint ticking noise. For the benefits it's completely worth it.

thank you hayden! a ticking noise i can live with, single mass it is! i also dont like the idea of dual mass because you cant machine them once they wear, apparently.

i just stumbled across this video SPEC Clutch Part 1 - YouTube
whats so bad about these spec kits? i watched the video the whole way through, at the start he cant go back to second, but on the last few shifts he can. so is it a temperature issue? whats so bad about spec?

[HaydEn]

just picked up R32 #42

Yeah Mal and Ben both had bad experiences. From memory the clutch disk was to big and constantly grabbing or something.

This is the car I'm basing my smf over dmf debate. It was mental fun.


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[robbie]

The single mass flywheel is quite heavy duty so if you tend to drive the car daily, your left foot will get a good work out which can sometimes become irritating at the same time. It also shudders if don't get the right rhythm going and its very loud.

Thought I would let you know that to buy a new OEM clutch from the stealers it would cost - $2300 (clutch, flywheel, breather, G/B bolts) at trade prices as well Frank..

http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/f14/mk4-r32-clutches-54550.html