Air Intake setup... why cant we POD it...?

[No457 Snowy]

I wouldn't click on that link if you paid me. The more rice burners they put off the road the better. German cars FTW.

Snowy.

[D3bb4]

The link is to a reply by the EPA as to the legality of common mods.

and you must be joking

[No457 Snowy]

I was.

Snowy

[No457 Snowy]

Just regarding your comments about discriminating against Japanese vehicles, the thing is, most of the drivers of "modded" japanese vehicles that I see are mounting an aftermarket filter then immediately fit a full atmospheric "blow off" valve, which make a way louder noise than the recirculating type found on Euro cars. It's actually so common it's become a cliche, so the police hear that and there is your red flag to the bull. Often this is also what is being referred to as excessive "Intake" noise.

Same with exhausts, so many modded Japanese vehicles have a huge cannon sized "thing" poking out from the back of the bumper, once again it's so common it's cliche. These types of mods definately get police attention and they are taught to watch for them, but in contrast to that, most Euro owners actually see those things as undesirable mods on their cars and they are often refered to as "ricey" mods.

So in effect those guys are creating their own situation by making themselves an obvious target for the police.

Snowy

[The_Hawk]

There ARE figures. The year model of the car is what the figures compare to, that's why pre-86 cars or something like that can still run no cats!

Not that I would stake my life on posts from that forum, but it's the closest I have seen to a reasonable answer. So they are not illegal for the sake of it, but rather if it doesn't meet standards. Like I said earlier, no one ever said it's illegal because...

It would be *very* interesting to actually see some testing for before and after pod installation on a VAG car. I would be interested in seeing an unmolested car, one with just a pod, one with forced induction added, and maybe a GTI with a bigger turbo + other mods as a "worst case" all the above mods at once sort of test.

[DIDZ]

Australian Design Rules prohibit the use of a pod for some reason... not really sure why... it's one of those things.

The reason for this is "risk of fire".

[gavs]

As stated, a pod filter is not illegal, it just falls under certain guidelines. The reason peoples MAF's die with pod filters is that by using an oiled filter, they over oil it and the MAF gets drowned in the oil, making it die.

Though speak to some people (myself included) and they will tell you that pods and oiled filters in general are a waste of money

(waits for the flames....)

[peteon2wheels]

Though speak to some people (myself included) and they will tell you that pods and oiled filters in general are a waste of money

(waits for the flames....)

My question here is... all CAIs seem to use an oiled filter anyway - so why would they not ruin the MAF as much as a POD anyway....? They still have oil.

[No457 Snowy]

You don't have to run an oiled filter, companies like AEM make dry filter equivalents. Evolution Motorsports also offer a dry filter alternative for customers concerned about it.

Snowy.

[Golf Dvr]

Simota make a CAI with a POD filter (non oil) for our cars, mine is ordered and on it,s way. Their's places the filter at the opening in the bumper on the passenger side to allow for an unrestricted and cooler air intake. We're lucky over here as cats can be removed from exhaust sytems as well.

[99gti]

I run a pod filter on a neuspeed CAI. Technically speaking it's not in the engine bay as it is routed down into the passenger side arch that is sealed away from the engine bay. The rest is all secured and bolted up.

I have made every attempt to ensure it is legal but if you get the wrong person on the wrong day I'm sure they will disagree. In the mean time I'll carry on listening to what sounds like darth vader with a cold.

[EVN-88G]

Simota make a CAI with a POD filter (non oil) for our cars, mine is ordered and on it,s way. Their's places the filter at the opening in the bumper on the passenger side to allow for an unrestricted and cooler air intake. We're lucky over here as cats can be removed from exhaust sytems as well.

As it has been stated a few times in this thread, placing the air filter down there at the front of the car can expose it to more water than up in the engine bay if you go through large enough puddles, leading to hydrolocking your engine, but im sure no drives through floods in a golf

I have made every attempt to ensure it is legal but if you get the wrong person on the wrong day I'm sure they will disagree. In the mean time I'll carry on listening to what sounds like darth vader with a cold.

LOL man i cant wait till i get mine then..... Just have to wait for some funding

[Blitzen]

. The reason peoples MAF's die with pod filters is that by using an oiled filter, they over oil it and the MAF gets drowned in the oil, making it die.

Though speak to some people (myself included) and they will tell you that pods and oiled filters in general are a waste of money

(waits for the flames....)

This is hearsay and crap...There is NO proof to this....I have run K&N and BMC oiled filters on all of my cars and never had a problem, and have NEVER heard about it being an issue until I joined this forum, but of the people how come up with this stuff about buggered MAF sensors, NONE have come up with any proof to say it was the filter oil that killed it, and NONE have taken up the issue with K&N, or any other oiled filter manufacturer. Tell me, alot of the time, where dose the crank case breather hose exit in front of? Do you have conclusive proof that filter oil wrecks Mass Airflow Sensors(MAF"s).

Please read this...

http://www.knfilters.com/MAF/massairpledge.htm

http://www.knfilters.com/MAF/massairfindings.htm

http://www.knfilters.com/MAF/MAFTestresults.htm

[JVLR32]

There use to be a mod i done on a HSV Holden! basic simple.....drill a serious of holes on bottom of standard factory air box...BIG Difference can it work with R32s,Gtis etc.......

[D3bb4]

There use to be a mod i done on a HSV Holden! basic simple.....drill a serious of holes on bottom of standard factory air box...BIG Difference can it work with R32s,Gtis etc.......

But it'd look bad I'm not game to try that just yet. Might do it a little bit more precisely with a 3" hole and a second intake pipe for the box, silicon it up, and make it look pro