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You obviously havn't driven a VR6 very long Seater. After driving one for several years, i can tell you that they are alot better handling than you think. You just have to learn how to drive it properly
1995 Dragon Green VR6 - Dead
2002 Silver Bora 4motion
Please enlighten me as to how you need to drive a VR6 to enjoy what it has to offer? How differently you would drive a VR6 compared to something like my Cupra, a Golf 16v or any other hot hatch for entertainment value.
I like the VR6 for their nice sounding engine and pleasent looks. I nearlly bought one on engine note alone. But dynamically they are a pig of a car, and it really put me off (high fuel consumption also). I have driven enough of them for long enough to know. VW knew this and that's why they brought in the 4motion. I have been in an R32 and dynamically thanks to their 4WD they are far superior car. Thats a car that can handle the extra weight and power.
The VR6 is nice family transport but its no hot hatch.
PS: As I previously mentioned, I used to drive a Mercedes which was a very heavy car, I got very used to it. Grew tired of it.
It's well known the VR6 suspension spec was changed during its time on sale here. Some VR6s handled better than others. It was a bit of a lead tipped arrow at the very limit, but then I don't agree that it's a pig of a car - it's all how you set up to corner the thing; set up early in a VR6 and I reckon they are quick and agile.
I've driven the Cupra when new, and I thought the quality was very ordinary, the 16v really lacked torque and while it handled quite well it was not as agile or tactile as I hoped it would be. Don't get me wrong -I like the Cupra and personally have thought of buying one, but I like torque and power, not just high-revving power. And it really felt cheap and had lots of rattles compared to other VAG products of the time. Harsh ride, too. VR6 was not perfect, but as a new car more accomplished than the Cupra. Having said that, the point of this thread is a bit lost on me because they were not cars in the same size or price class anyway. While as usedcars they may sell for similar prices, they still are very different in philosophy.
I guess when i turn it on it says 20l/100km, but after 5 mins its down to under 10l, and then by the time i get to work it says 8.5/100km. Even when i strapped it UP mt hotham chasing a mini2 it didn't go about 11!
My gfs 1.8l Cordoba uses more fuel! ahaha....
1995 Dragon Green VR6 - Dead
2002 Silver Bora 4motion
yeah i think i agree there.
On my recent road trip along the eastern coast i was averaging as low as 7.6L/100kms according to the MFA. (which according to my calculations on fill ups seemed to be quite accurate)
In peak hour traffic i rarely get worse then 11L/100kms
Even thrashing the pants off it in the mountains. maybe 13L tops?
Will have to see what happens when i get a chance to do a track day :twisted:
yeah i easily get 7-8ltrs/100 , goes out to 11 if i really get on it and cruze at high speeds. they are good motors , no doubt about it the best i can get is 5.4l/100 out my way but thats really being carefull and using all the hills to my advantage. and sittin on 80 i enjoy MFA its a fun game to play
this post just keeps going, i personally like both these cars, for different reasons. Its not really apples vs apples...the vr6 is probably more complex, the Seat is more likely to have lots of tiny dents on the body????(whats that about) but regardless they still have lots on offer, and now is a great time to buy either car. And then u run in to an R32 and realise that u have a ways to go!
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