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  • #16
    I probably won't run an oil cooler for a long LONG time. Nowhere to mount it really without getting in the way of something else. Notice the lack of lower cutout on the drivers side... strange
    77 Mk1 GLS 2 door - That sinking feeling
    76 Mk1 Swallowtail 2 door - Replace that BMW & 76 Sweetheart

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    • #17
      Also have a look at Peter Jones engine bay he has his radiator to the left, ITB's and an oil cooler in there some where.

      Oil cooler doesnt necessarily need direct airflow.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Browneye View Post
        Yes I could use a barina radiator without too much hassle. Only things is I'd need an expansion tank again, which are fugly haha.

        What do you mean about a shroud? Like enclose area between the radiator and the front panel? If so, I don't really think it would make that much difference. I think we'll wait and see if everything works before I think too much into altering anything.

        To get more clearance, I can always just turn the battery 90 degrees. Just need a different mounting system in that case.
        Exactly what notso swift said. It's actually pointless running a fan without a shroud because your fan or fans will have to be working over time to even try and keep it cool.
        You might think the expansion tank is ugly, though it also helps with the aid of cooling. And try to somehow bridge the top of the radiator support to the radiator with a piece of plate to alloy sheet or something?
        Owning a 600hp Cleveland gave me grief to keep cool, even with the best of parts. Might be ok in winter but as the warmer weather approaches you see the temp gauge creep up at the traffic lights and just praying they change so can keep moving.

        Sorry Jordan for sounding like a pain, just speaking from a little experience. If you need a hand just shout out I'm happy to help.

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        • #19
          Mine has a Barina radiator. It really is the best option, fits like it was made for the Golf and you can still use the standard fan/shroud.

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          Expansion tank is a standard overflow/filler bottle off a 90's Golf or Polo as shown here on the right.

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          Last edited by sports racer; 22-05-2015, 12:44 AM.
          1978 MK1 2.0 16v http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/foru...-46488-70.html
          1991 MK2 GTI 2.0 8v, white (RIP) and it's red replacement http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/foru...gti-42078.html
          1997 MK3 CL http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/foru...ml#post1292061
          2001 & 2002 Bora 4motion. http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/foru...st-123823.html

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          • #20
            So dumb question...

            This is my radiator (Honda civic) If I were to mount it on its side (the same orientation as the picture) with a modified filler cap to remove the air lock, would it still cool as effectively as it would if mounted upright? Or would water only flow through the bottom half of the radiator due to the location of the hoses?

            I would happily change my radiator except for the fact that I already bought this one... If worse comes to worse, I'll get a barina one or something similar.
            77 Mk1 GLS 2 door - That sinking feeling
            76 Mk1 Swallowtail 2 door - Replace that BMW & 76 Sweetheart

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Browneye View Post
              So dumb question...

              This is my radiator (Honda civic) If I were to mount it on its side (the same orientation as the picture) with a modified filler cap to remove the air lock, would it still cool as effectively as it would if mounted upright? Or would water only flow through the bottom half of the radiator due to the location of the hoses?

              I would happily change my radiator except for the fact that I already bought this one... If worse comes to worse, I'll get a barina one or something similar.
              Should work ok, as long as the rest of the cooling system is working fine, like the pump and thermostat.
              You can only try dude.

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              • #22
                Won't work. The tubes inside the radiator have to be vertical so they all fill up with water. If they are horizontal only the lower ones will fill so you're losing half the efficiency of the radiator. Since it's a small radiator to start with you will be looking at bugger all cooling capability if it's mounted sideways.
                1978 MK1 2.0 16v http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/foru...-46488-70.html
                1991 MK2 GTI 2.0 8v, white (RIP) and it's red replacement http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/foru...gti-42078.html
                1997 MK3 CL http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/foru...ml#post1292061
                2001 & 2002 Bora 4motion. http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/foru...st-123823.html

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                • #23
                  As above, but you said you will have a bleed so I will assume the air is out and there will be water every where

                  There will be very limited flow on the top half, the flow will take the path of least resistance, which does not include coming in, doing a 90 degree turn, up hill, across and then down again.
                  It is a pressurised system, so some water would move, but it will be a relative trickle
                  I think if you were to put it in and then used one of the infrared thermo probes you would have maybe 70 deg at the top and 100 at the bottom. And most of the 70 would be from heat soak of the metal

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                  • #24
                    Dude this thing is absolutely mint! Makes me super motivated to get back into my car finally!
                    Good to see someone doing something different and having actually thought about it properly. Can't wait to hear running videos!
                    1976 VW Golf "Swallowtail" - Rallye Red (long term resto)
                    2009 Pirelli GTI - Stg3 killer
                    2009 R36 Passat - Daily baller
                    Originally posted by Peter Jones
                    You take corners on three wheels, and V8's can't catch you.

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                    • #25
                      So another question regarding my radiator solution. If I weld a partition in the end tank, leaving it open at the top, would that force the flow through the entire core? Here's a quick doodle of what I mean. The partition is in red and the flow is yellow.
                      In other news, sorted out the fuel pump yesterday, it's a little noisy but will do for the time being. Attached it to the outside of the spare tyre well, to keep it out of harms way.
                      Test fit the extractors (I believe they are hurricane?) and I can't believe the quality of the fitment. Bolt straight up and the downpipe is tucked right up under the tunnel. Top quality part if I might say. Fluke buy on eBay for around $160 and couldn't be happier
                      Sorry for the s**t pictures today

                      Considering a full wire tuck also...

                      Much more to come
                      77 Mk1 GLS 2 door - That sinking feeling
                      76 Mk1 Swallowtail 2 door - Replace that BMW & 76 Sweetheart

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                      • #26
                        76 Sweetheart

                        You need to use a radiator in the mounting direction it was designed for, it won't cool properly
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                        • #27
                          Here's some shots of mine.

                          The radiator is out of a 93 Barina and Michael got it for $90 back in 2013. The fan was another $50 but you might be able to use the MK1 one.

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                          Let me know if you want any other pix. I've got the motor out so it should be easy to get you a shot.

                          Cheers

                          Paul
                          Last edited by sports racer; 25-05-2015, 04:57 PM.
                          1978 MK1 2.0 16v http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/foru...-46488-70.html
                          1991 MK2 GTI 2.0 8v, white (RIP) and it's red replacement http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/foru...gti-42078.html
                          1997 MK3 CL http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/foru...ml#post1292061
                          2001 & 2002 Bora 4motion. http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/foru...st-123823.html

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                          • #28
                            Looks like I'll be getting a barina rad then... Was looking at a Jeep Cherokee radiator but was around 20mm too long to fit between the chassis rails. Otherwise it would have been perfect.

                            Barina radiator has the same thread for the thermo switch for the fan doesn't it? If so, that makes the swap nice and easy. Shame it needs an expansion tank though, but you win some, you lose some.

                            Anyway, started on the wire tuck tonight, and doesn't seem as hard as I thought it would be. We'll see what I'll be saying in a week's time when I got wires running everywhere though. Just labeling and disconnecting at this stage, and there's really not that many wires in the bay. Looks better already.
                            77 Mk1 GLS 2 door - That sinking feeling
                            76 Mk1 Swallowtail 2 door - Replace that BMW & 76 Sweetheart

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                            • #29
                              Anyone know what this box is for....
                              77 Mk1 GLS 2 door - That sinking feeling
                              76 Mk1 Swallowtail 2 door - Replace that BMW & 76 Sweetheart

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                              • #30
                                Old diagnostics port box. Nothing that is necessary, especially today.
                                1976 VW Golf "Swallowtail" - Rallye Red (long term resto)
                                2009 Pirelli GTI - Stg3 killer
                                2009 R36 Passat - Daily baller
                                Originally posted by Peter Jones
                                You take corners on three wheels, and V8's can't catch you.

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