Lower Ball Joint Extension's

[mikinoz]

Step One - wonder about lowering car
Step Two - consult alex
Step Three - get preeny to order me something
Step Four - wait a while
Step Five - install
Step Six - grin!

[alex g]

Fixed .

Step One - wonder about lowering car
Step Two - consult alex
Step Three - get preeny to order me something
Step Four - wait a long long long while
Step Five - install
Step Six - grin!

[roccodingo]

Someone has to make these commercially for less than $250/pr.

biggest issue with these extension items is likely to be the legality for use on the street. These were originally sold for non highway use only. Once it gets to the point where there is an injury or fatality then the lawmakers will come down like a ton of bricks.

I would only look at street usage after having a mechanical engineer do the load calcs on these then still even hesitate to use them. The better way is to remanufacture the front hub housing with the desired geometry changes, as some MK4 units I have seen somewhere online .

Ask your missus if your life is only worth $250. I know what mine would say..


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[Jace]

Seriously? ^

Have you ever ridden on Hottunings?

[mikinoz]

Quotable Jace. If spending $250 on getting better geometry is less safe than a dude running JOMs who only spent a few bucks more on a complete set of coils, I'm feeling safe already.

I understand where you're coming from Grant. I just think this is better than not doing anything.

[Preen59]

Not pulling any punches, Al.

Yes Unix do a great set. I've got 4 sets coming, 3 spoken for.

[mikinoz]

Not pulling any punches, Al.

Yes Unix do a great set. I've got 4 sets coming, 3 spoken for.

So if they are **** and I die once I have installed them - you have to apologise to the Mrs ok.

When will they be arriving?

[roccodingo]

Quotable Jace. If spending $250 on getting better geometry is less safe than a dude running JOMs who only spent a few bucks more on a complete set of coils, I'm feeling safe already.

I understand where you're coming from Grant. I just think this is better than not doing anything.

Would be good to have the bearing housings made correctly, but yeah, hearing what your saying..

Wot i'm on about...

[alex g]

I belief the weaker link in the system ( if we need to point fingers)is the lower control arm to ball joint mount itself. 3 M6 ( or rivets stock)fittings sandwiched by some 3 mm pressed metal. I know what's gonna fail first and it ain't gonna be the hardened 4140 extension.
Sleep tight Mik.

[Preen59]

So if they are **** and I die once I have installed them - you have to apologise to the Mrs ok.

When will they be arriving?

Next week, fingers crossed.

Would be good to have the bearing housings made correctly, but yeah, hearing what your saying..

Wot i'm on about...

Yikes.. No thanks. I know of one guy i'd trust to weld that, and even then i can see the parent metal failing around it.

I belief the weaker link in the system ( if we need to point fingers)is the lower control arm to ball joint mount itself. 3 M6 ( or rivets stock)fittings sandwiched by some 3 mm pressed metal. I know what's gonna fail first and it ain't gonna be the hardened 4140 extension.
Sleep tight Mik.

Agreed, Al.

[roccodingo]

Yikes.. No thanks. I know of one guy i'd trust to weld that, and even then i can see the parent metal failing around it.

Not mine so not bothered, what I was eluding to was that they are forged ( not a forging modified with fabrication) in that geometry or whatever geometry to minimise bump steer.

[pepperwhite]

I have a set of pwm extenders, you need carriers with 16mm ball joints (cabriolet) for these to work along with tie rod flip kit. A drill press is required for the flip kit.

I am happy with the improvement. Makes a difference on bumpy corners, feels more predictable.

[mikinoz]

Good feedback as I am shortly about to install a UNIX extender set and flip kit.

The angle of the arms at the moment appears very awkward...

[ozgti]

biggest issue with these extension items is likely to be the legality for use on the street. These were originally sold for non highway use only. Once it gets to the point where there is an injury or fatality then the lawmakers will come down like a ton of bricks.

I would only look at street usage after having a mechanical engineer do the load calcs on these then still even hesitate to use them. The better way is to remanufacture the front hub housing with the desired geometry changes, as some MK4 units I have seen somewhere online .

Ask your missus if your life is only worth $250. I know what mine would say..


Check the disclaimer note at the bottom of the page.
www.PMWltd.com - Performance Machine Works, LTD Racing Suspension Specialists - Product Catalog

One thing to note as well is, if you import them and they fail, you are deemed as the manufacturer and as such are liable for any injury/ damage that can/ may ensue. How do I know? We import as a business. We pay shed loads in public liability to cover our asses when/ if something like this happens.

IF you get them engineered and the engineer signs off in this, then the liability then lies on the engineer.

However, engineers do not like any mods to the steering. This includes tie rod end and ball joint extensions. They put too much stress on the other components.

[sports racer]

I am happy with the improvement. Makes a difference on bumpy corners, feels more predictable.

Is this because the bump steer is reduced?