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  • #16
    I'm really interested in this thread. Any idea what sort of power you'll have? I'm not asking from the boy racer point of view. My MK1 has a 90 hp 1.8L motor and I do 180 ks each day on country roads. I'd love something that's very economical but still has decent power to take on the hills and overtaking the slow traffic. The torque and economy of a diesel really appeals to me.
    1978 MK1 2.0 16v http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/foru...-46488-70.html
    1991 MK2 GTI 2.0 8v, white (RIP) and it's red replacement http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/foru...gti-42078.html
    1997 MK3 CL http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/foru...ml#post1292061
    2001 & 2002 Bora 4motion. http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/foru...st-123823.html

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    • #17
      I'll do that but only if you could block Preen from seeing it... he said some bad things about a chef once... I'm a chef and i was offended...
      1980 GLD
      1979 300D Mercedes
      1980 300TD Mercedes
      1956 Desoto Panel Van... Maybe to comeback to life as a diesel???

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      • #18
        This is all very interesting. I like it.

        Originally posted by JustMark View Post
        I'll do that but only if you could block Preen from seeing it... he said some bad things about a chef once... I'm a chef and i was offended...
        Haha, my best mate is a chef. He's the one that cooked my GLD.. The bastard.

        APR Tuned | KW Suspension | INA Engineering | Mocal Oil Control |
        Website: http://www.tprengineering.com
        Email: chris@tprengineering.com

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        • #19
          Originally posted by sports racer View Post
          I'm really interested in this thread. Any idea what sort of power you'll have? I'm not asking from the boy racer point of view. My MK1 has a 90 hp 1.8L motor and I do 180 ks each day on country roads. I'd love something that's very economical but still has decent power to take on the hills and overtaking the slow traffic. The torque and economy of a diesel really appeals to me.
          Hey mate,

          With some head porting, a decent turbo setup (like a large VNT or a large single turbo with lag, or a clever but hard work twin turbo setup) and good pump tuning, 200hp is possible from a 1.6 TD. The 1.9TD (not TDI) like I have in my mk3 seems to have an upper limit around 260hp.

          My mk3 is making 120hp and 300Nm at the wheels with a Garrett T3 (with plenty of potential). If I wasn't concerned about replenishing my savings after buying the Octavia, I'd probably think about converting my old mk3 to something more stock before selling it and keeping that engine for a mk1 - cos like you are thinking, that much hp and torque in a light car is just plain fun.

          Back to your main question though - a 1.6TD with a k14 should be able to make 90-100hp easily, running around 20psi boost, which is easy to run with no engine mods at all. The most important thing is to tune the pump to deliver enough fuelling and have a decent exhaust and intercooler setup.
          Last edited by gldgti; 08-07-2011, 09:13 AM.
          '07 Touareg V6 TDI with air suspension
          '98 Mk3 Cabriolet 2.0 8V
          '99 A4 Quattro 1.8T

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          • #20
            Ive just uploaded the gov mod video into a new thread... Hope you guys enjoy
            1980 GLD
            1979 300D Mercedes
            1980 300TD Mercedes
            1956 Desoto Panel Van... Maybe to comeback to life as a diesel???

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            • #21
              Well its done, and not without a bit of nostalgia for the ol 1.5D donk. It has (and still is) a very good motor and is a perfect pairing with the chb cordoba gearbox.

              Out with the old


              And in with the new


              I used the back way to get the motors out and in.

              My helpers.....


              Install complete


              Things to do now include:

              replace gearbox drive shaft seal holder (the green sheetmetal one) as its damaged and leaking
              install washer bottle - I have a petrol washer bottle and mount to go behind the battery
              source and install a cordoba air cleaner box (thanks mollins for the idea)
              wire up reverse switch
              mount fuel filter
              mod alternator to run the tachometer
              exhaust
              intercooler
              egt etc etc.......

              The car pulls really well in 2nd and 3rd. In 4th and 5th it isnt brilliant but has a very laid back feel. Boosts to 10psi
              Beige 79 Mk1 GLD White 76 Mk1 LS 3 door
              White 68 Alfa 1750 Berlina Champagne 91 Alfa 75
              Red 09 9N3 Polo TDI White 2010 Skoda Octavia Combi TDI

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              • #22
                Well Done Buddy

                Thats too funny... what are the odds? i'm putting the Turbo into a Mexico Beige GLD... although i have owned 3 beige Mk1s... Awesome work mate... I'm getting closer too...lots of little subtle differences between the motor out of the passat...

                On that note does anyone think i will have any trouble using the Passat Sump? Its lower than the golf sump but not by much... My golf is lowered by a inch or two...

                Mark
                1980 GLD
                1979 300D Mercedes
                1980 300TD Mercedes
                1956 Desoto Panel Van... Maybe to comeback to life as a diesel???

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by hiho View Post
                  I noticed when removing the drive shafts that if I turn one flange, the other turns in the same direction. I can get the other flange to turn in the opposite direction only if i put it in gear (and theres a bit of friction to overcome). Does this indicate that there is an LSD in there or just that the spider gears are stuck? I will replace the flange seals as they are leaking so I might be able to tell from that..... Gearbox code is 8A
                  Not necessarily. In a differential, if the input is locked, then the wheels will turn in opposite directions as the average output speed is the same as the input speed. If the transmission is is neutral, then as long as there is nothing stopping the input to the diff turning, the outputs should turn in the same direction.

                  You can check for a diff lock or LSD by having the transmission in neutral and then turning each output flange in different directions. If they do turn in opposite directions then there is no diff lock or LSD. LSD usually requires a fairly high torque input before it starts working anyway.
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                  • #24
                    with this one, JustMarks and my dad, thats 3 beige GLD's with turbo's this year!
                    '07 Touareg V6 TDI with air suspension
                    '98 Mk3 Cabriolet 2.0 8V
                    '99 A4 Quattro 1.8T

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                    • #25
                      Without the benefit of red paint, the beige mk1 diesels require turbocharging. Mine has red injector lines and red turbo oil drain for an additional performance boost.

                      The fuel consumption is phenomenally low, but performance wise it is probably on par with the 1.6 petrol golf.

                      I will be fabricating a downpipe or two and will need a welder. I have been advised that I should purchase a tig welder instead of a mig welder. My limiting factor is the power supply is limited to 1600W continuous and 2400W for 30 minutes. Again, opinions are requested
                      Beige 79 Mk1 GLD White 76 Mk1 LS 3 door
                      White 68 Alfa 1750 Berlina Champagne 91 Alfa 75
                      Red 09 9N3 Polo TDI White 2010 Skoda Octavia Combi TDI

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                      • #26
                        hey man,

                        if you have a mig thats fine. no real need for tig for MS exhaust stuff at all
                        '07 Touareg V6 TDI with air suspension
                        '98 Mk3 Cabriolet 2.0 8V
                        '99 A4 Quattro 1.8T

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                        • #27
                          I agree with gldgti, I have a mig. But just after I bought mine the 'new' inverter welders came out. They are much more energy efficient and lighter in weight (definitely and issue). I am told they also do tig and mig welding. I have kicked myself for not waiting as I knew they were coming out. Also buy a solar-powered welding helmet, so much more convenient than having to flip the screen up and down every time you do a weld! Once you have a welder it's amazing how much you find you need one! Get the best you can afford!
                          Mk3 Golf Tdi about to sell
                          Mk 1 Golf GLD somewhere in a paddock!
                          Mk1 Golf Cabriolet
                          MK2 Golf Turbo diesel engine and 5 sp gearbox

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                          • #28
                            Just buy a MIG.

                            If you can, copper transformer, 250amp single phase, remote wire feeder.

                            You get what you pay for with these things and the more you spend the better you'll get (And the better your welds will be, too).

                            APR Tuned | KW Suspension | INA Engineering | Mocal Oil Control |
                            Website: http://www.tprengineering.com
                            Email: chris@tprengineering.com

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                            • #29
                              Your little helpers are awesome! my kids would love to have them as pets..
                              R36 Twin Turbo Golf 650hp 0-100 3.1sec 11.106@125mph.

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                              • #30
                                Thanks AP, they're little terrors!

                                Mark, what parts do you need for your MK1 TD swap? I highly recommend you do it. Do you have a 5 speed box and mount? I will have a spare 5 speed mount soon if you're interested. Also, do you need a downpipe? I will be fabricating two for myself so my stock downpipe will be surplus to my needs.

                                If you need any other parts, with the strong aussie dollar, I suggest looking at the for sale section on vwdiesel.net

                                Do you have any photos of the motor while it was still in the passat?
                                Beige 79 Mk1 GLD White 76 Mk1 LS 3 door
                                White 68 Alfa 1750 Berlina Champagne 91 Alfa 75
                                Red 09 9N3 Polo TDI White 2010 Skoda Octavia Combi TDI

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