Diesel fuel additives for modern diesel.

[Transporter]

Well, yes but there are also many other car owners who agree. That's well documented throughout various forums.
The opinion of those that actually test the idea, in the real world, is worth more than the unqualified opinions of armchair critics.

You can't be serious? Calling those who are qualified incl. the engine manufacturers..."the unqualified armchair critics".

[CardinalSin]

You can't be serious? Calling those who are qualified incl. the engine manufacturers..."the unqualified armchair critics".

No, this is a forum and the comments here are from the forum members. Some try out new ideas and post their results while others tend to ridicule them and suggest any favourable results are pure fantasy.
I know the results I have had over the years are real. The engines have been quieter, smoother with better economy[carefully recorded] and the exhaust is cleaner with hardly any smell compared to without 2SO. Others have had the same results.
Those results should be respected as they are genuine, anything less is offensive.

[Transporter]

No, this is a forum and the comments here are from the forum members. Some try out new ideas and post their results while others tend to ridicule them and suggest any favourable results are pure fantasy.
I know the results I have had over the years are real. The engines have been quieter, smoother with better economy[carefully recorded] and the exhaust is cleaner with hardly any smell compared to without 2SO. Others have had the same results.
Those results should be respected as they are genuine, anything less is offensive.

...and the forum members are telling you that there is a lot of official discouragement against using the 2SO as a diesel additive in the DPF equipped cars.

please feel free to start a new thread or use the one that I've suggested earlier if you want to keep posting about the 2SO and leave this one for the diesel additives. The 2SO is not a diesel additive, no matter how much research you do.

[Ryeman]

I referred to 250
Whats this 2SO?

[brad]

I referred to 250
Whats this 2SO?

2 Stroke Oil - It's what we've been talking about for the last dozen or so posts.

So what is 1:8000?

What is 250?

I'm on tenterhooks

[Ryeman]

I think it's a matter of a 'cross thread'.
Google CRD diesel additive 250 rpt 250


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[brad]

Thank God you've sorted that out. I was totally confused.

thx

[Ryeman]

Thank God you've sorted that out. I was totally confused.

thx

I'm trying to find out if it actually is good for a CRD.

[spud75]

The Penrite DPF Cleaner contains Cerium and should be a very good choice for the DPF equipped diesels.

As always read the instructions on the bottle.

+ 1 for Penrite DPF in my PD and +1 for Penrite DPF in my CR.

[Ryeman]

I'm inclined to accept Penrite's products but to be consistent it's the same old question of why when the manufacturers say don't
And
Why is it not in pump diesel if it's beneficial?
Then, do all service divisions add their own unspecified additive?

[brad]

I'm inclined to accept Penrite's products but to be consistent it's the same old question of why when the manufacturers say don't
And
Why is it not in pump diesel if it's beneficial?
Then, do all service divisions add their own unspecified additive?

Why would you include DPF cleaner in diesel when so many diesels don't have a DPF or many that do have a DPF use AdBlue or similar as standard equipment?

It would just add unnecessary cost which while negligable for a small SUV owner doing 20,000km/pa would be a huge expense for a prime mover operator doing 200,000km/pa.

[kaanage]

Isn't AdBlue for NOx reduction, not soot?

Also, I read on a DPF cleaning additive that it should not be used for vehicles with inbuilt DPF additive injection systems (eg Peugeots). Doesn't apply to VWs but something to keep in mind for some other "modern" diesels.

But Ryeman's question is valid for "smoke killer" and "injector lubricant" additives

[Transporter]

I'm inclined to accept Penrite's products but to be consistent it's the same old question of why when the manufacturers say don't
And
Why is it not in pump diesel if it's beneficial?
Then, do all service divisions add their own unspecified additive?

Some additives work best when added into the fuel tank before you put fuel in. The additives added in refinery could be somehow depleted after they were in the underground tanks.
Using purpose made additives in fuel makes sense, stick to the instructions and your diesel engine will benefit from it. There is more to the diesel additive that just to add a bit more lubrication. A good diesel additive will disperse water contained in the diesel fuel, fight bacteria and will provide additional lubrication as well as clean injectors.

I personally stick with the diesel additives from well established companies and don't gamble with the CR diesel fuel system, there is no need for it.

[brad]

Isn't AdBlue for NOx reduction, not soot?

Also, I read on a DPF cleaning additive that it should not be used for vehicles with inbuilt DPF additive injection systems (eg Peugeots). Doesn't apply to VWs but something to keep in mind for some other "modern" diesels.

But Ryeman's question is valid for "smoke killer" and "injector lubricant" additives

I thought it was for the DPF but I'm probably wrong.

[Greg Roles]

Chuck it in and see what happens ya big babies!

Adblue is a catalyst for soot particles, which are always the problem, dropping NOX is dead easy in comparison. It's usually Cerium or Stontium or some other highly toxic substance....basically a metal catalyst to further burn soot ( unburnt and carbon coated fuel ) down further.

DPF cleaners are usually just toluene or some other high hydrocarbon fluid, and without some actual Cerium in them I have to wonder just how much good they really do. Wynns has Cerium in it, but I can only get that from the UK on eBay. Does make the DPF regen in record time though, but does nothing for accumulated load ( ash ).