103kW/125kw TDI PD Piezo Siemens injector failure thread

[jazd]

Have no idea, those posts are by the UK moderator on the facebook page, I was just asked to contribute...

Ak ok, no worries.

[ouchgtsport]

Another bites the dust...

Hi all my 2008 GT Sport shut down over the weekend and was towed to the dealer yesterday. The dealer called me today to say all injectors need replacing. They said they would contact VW Australia to see if there was some sort of part payment they would agree to.

The car came out of warranty Jan 2011, has 55k, has full service history with VW and I am the second owner having bought the car in Jan 2011.

I saw through the thread that someone had a Passat covered out of warranty and was second owner with no cost to them by an Adelaide dealership.

I just wanted to gauge how many people may have had similar predicament to mine so I can battle them if they try only to meet a portion of the cost.

Many thanks everyone this forum has been a huge help.

Dave C

[vk]

Cars can stutter and misfire prior to failure, but the vast majority of people report it stopping "out of the blue".

Sorry to say it is a possible problem of these cars, but so too we "believe" the cars went to the better Siemens injector mid 2008, that is manufacture date, not delivery. Check the plate in your boot beside the spare, it will tell you when it was made. Sadly mine is Sept 2007.....

how does this look:

[ouchgtsport]

Received the call today. All 4 injectors will be replaced and wire loom some 8+ months out of warranty at no cost. There was no fight needed. I am happy with the outcome.

I will input my details in the register once I have the car and paperwork.

Dave

[benough]

8 months! Wow, you're very lucky unless VWA have changed their minds.

[Greg Roles]

I think perhaps they see the fight coming from the UK, and have been forced to start doing the right thing. VOSA UK is starting to talk to their counterparts in other countries, and I have been told Australia is on the list.

[hooba]

Related?

Stop-sale issued for Volkswagen Jetta and Golf TDI diesel models, recall imminent?

[kaanage]

Not at all - that's the newer CR engine.
Good pickup, though - I hadn't seen that before. Only the other CR issue with the HPFP shredding itself.

[Greg Roles]

Great find. The power of the USA watchdogs.

Imagine if the USA had the MKV PD injector issue, it would be a definate recall, instead of turning a blind eye.

[Greg Roles]

how does this look:

Can't be 100% sure, but from what I know you *should* have the uprated oil seal on the injectors.

Be real nice if VW at LEAST gave us some information as no doubt they know....

[max55]

Good Result

Following my post of 03-10-2011 and just to confirm, there was no warning prior to the engine cutting out. My local workshop suggested that I'd be best taking it to a VW dealer in the likely event that it was the injectors. So I had it towed to Penrith Volkswagen. I collected it today. Four injectors and harness replaced no charge without question, on a goodwill basis as it was at least 6 months out of warranty. Thanks VWA and thank you to this forum for moral support.

[haro]

Well I guess my father got a good run with his VW T5 Transporter (2.5L TDI) - its got over 400K on the clock as its a Maxi taxi here in Brissy.
One of his injectors failed on the freeway yesterday, he was able to limp the vehicle to the mechanic and they got a price of about $800 for a single injector!!! Price does not include diagnosis, install etc.

Painful stuff indeed & I feel sorry for my old man. Obviously no warranty on this one left.

At least he was able to save some money on his replacement turbo we recently got hehehe *fishing*

[benough]

400K though. That's a badge of honour.

I want 300K out of mine

[kaanage]

he was able to limp the vehicle to the mechanic

It must be a different injector/loom/ecu (not surprising given the difference in size/power/etc) since the failures discussed here kill the engine stone dead.

[davidno64]

Well now at 60,000 plus Km's, I have not had any more starting issues. But I did have what I thought was a bettery issue.
Vw could not fault it, so I replace it (the battery) and all Ok. But they had also changed the MAF loom to adress some issues.
Still remaining unresolved was an intermitant loss of power, seldom occours but potentially dangerous in traffic.

NOW, recently I copped a red light camera. Why, the bloody cars got worse intermitant and more frequent, also sometimes
very severe power loss. I got caught mid intersection with no power and stationary. Then delayed, the revs rose and the car
was drivable again. Normally after acelertion, then braking. Either I get a delayed throttle reponse or no throttle response
at all. Sometimes when taking certain roundabouts, either a delayed throttle response or no throttle response at all.

Took it to VW, they had if for 3 days and could only partly replicate the fault and only under the driving conditions
I reported to them. No fault codes, no total power loss. But certainly a part power loss/ delayed throttle response.
Picked up the car, partly repaired. They had found an air leak on the EGR and recitifyed it. It does seem a bit better.
The car gets returned to VW in a few days again to further diagnose the fault. As they can not identify the cause and
have not complitly fixed the issues.

I suspect this is an injection problem. Weather it be a physical issue the the injectors themselfs or the control to
them, an interupted signal. Anyway when I have an answer, I will post any updates but has anyone else had simlar
Power loss/Power delivery issues (specifically relating to the injectors).