103kW/125kw TDI PD Piezo Siemens injector failure thread

[kaanage]

I didn’t know that - do we know if they come from the same facility?

Some items would come out of the same factory (the higher end Bosch dishwashers and washing machines come to mind) while others would be made at separate plants.

So can we say that they are manufactured by the same parent company (maybe different facility – maybe the same?) But it is still a different part using different technology that fails with a completely different problem.

100% correct in this case.

[Transporter]

I’m also not the first person to pay in full… I will update the Failure Register with parts prices, for future reference.

There is also thread for that (when you're out of pocket shortly after the warranty, so you can post there as well.

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/forums/f28/vw-diesel-pd-piezo-injector-55269.html

[pongpagong]

i think my contribution to this thread is long overdue.

one of the injectors failed back in Jan 2011. SCC replaced 1 (not all 4) at no cost because still under warranty. Three months later, similar incident happened -car lost power and was towed to SCC. I reckoned it was one of the three original injectors. SCC reckoned it was the turbocharger so it was replaced, again at no cost due to warranty. I requested to both SCC and VWA for the 3 injectors be replaced and argued that the turbocharger failure could be due to fuel mismanagement knowing that one of the injectors is different from the rest. After a month long of going back and forth to VWA and SCC, my request was declined. After another 3 months, 2 weeks after the warranty expired, one of the injectors failed again (according to SCC). Lucky i took the extended warranty (backed by Allianz) so SCC and VWA both agreed to replace the rest of the injectors. I reckon VWA agreed as it would be no cost to them, but Allianz.

Pretty disappointing for a 40K car from VW. As a consolation, i've got a 3 year old VW GT TDI with 4 new injectors and new turbocharger. Also lucky to have escaped from all three near-fatal incidents when the injectors and turbocharger failed.

[adrian112]

Hey Guys,

Over the weekend my injectors failed again (they failed last december for the first time). Driving down Parramatta road on the right hand lane of the road in busy traffic the car loses power and shuts off. Quick reflex and the hazards go straight on. Cars behind me lose it and beep away. Worse thing was it shut down on a hilly incline around croydon so we couldnt push it out of the way!

Got it towed (via my NRMA) to the dealer and after a few days the guys call me and say all injectors need to be replaced, and that VWA will replace them at no cost.

Happy that the Denlo guys were able to sort this out for me but I am defintely looking at exiting Golf ownership ASAP. It really is a shame as I love my car, and my Mother wanted to grab it off me when I upgraded. With this defect however there is no way I am letting a loved one buy it off me, for fear of physical harm to them. Within the next few months I had planned to upgrade the car and grab a Golf GTI/ or R but these drama's have made me think twice about buying VW again.

Again happy with the Denlo tea, and VWA shouldering the cost of the repairs, its the least they could do right!

[gldgti]

Hey Guys,

Over the weekend my injectors failed again (they failed last december for the first time). Driving down Parramatta road on the right hand lane of the road in busy traffic the car loses power and shuts off. Quick reflex and the hazards go straight on. Cars behind me lose it and beep away. Worse thing was it shut down on a hilly incline around croydon so we couldnt push it out of the way!

Got it towed (via my NRMA) to the dealer and after a few days the guys call me and say all injectors need to be replaced, and that VWA will replace them at no cost.

Happy that the Denlo guys were able to sort this out for me but I am defintely looking at exiting Golf ownership ASAP. It really is a shame as I love my car, and my Mother wanted to grab it off me when I upgraded. With this defect however there is no way I am letting a loved one buy it off me, for fear of physical harm to them. Within the next few months I had planned to upgrade the car and grab a Golf GTI/ or R but these drama's have made me think twice about buying VW again.

Again happy with the Denlo tea, and VWA shouldering the cost of the repairs, its the least they could do right!

Sad to hear you're thinking of giving it up but if I were you i'd stick with it.... as long as vw are paying.

[Greg Roles]

He's one of many ex-GT ex-VW guys I know now mate, there will be more, sadly...

[benough]

Hey Guys,

Over the weekend my injectors failed again (they failed last december for the first time). Driving down Parramatta road on the right hand lane of the road in busy traffic the car loses power and shuts off. Quick reflex and the hazards go straight on. Cars behind me lose it and beep away. Worse thing was it shut down on a hilly incline around croydon so we couldnt push it out of the way!

Got it towed (via my NRMA) to the dealer and after a few days the guys call me and say all injectors need to be replaced, and that VWA will replace them at no cost.

Happy that the Denlo guys were able to sort this out for me but I am defintely looking at exiting Golf ownership ASAP. It really is a shame as I love my car, and my Mother wanted to grab it off me when I upgraded. With this defect however there is no way I am letting a loved one buy it off me, for fear of physical harm to them. Within the next few months I had planned to upgrade the car and grab a Golf GTI/ or R but these drama's have made me think twice about buying VW again.

Again happy with the Denlo tea, and VWA shouldering the cost of the repairs, its the least they could do right!

Hey Adrian

It's unfortunate the car failed in a bad spot but I went through a very similar scenario.

For me though, I see that the achillies heel of the car has been exposed and now corrected. For me the uncertainty of that happening is now over and I see it as a reason to keep the car. I must admit I feeling of a minor anxiety in the back of your mind is now gone because of it.

Not too sure how it makes the car a potential harm to your family though.

I hope you do though but you won't go wrong with a GTI or R but you might be disappointed with the quality of the MK6.

[jazd]

Why the hell isn't VW recalling these cars, its getting ridiculous. I'm going to be so pissed off if this happens to me.

[Greg Roles]

You can bet your left nut I'll be making some noise! The issue is about to be aired on UK TV on a watchdog program, will be interesting to see how that goes....

[jazd]

You can bet your left nut I'll be making some noise! The issue is about to be aired on UK TV on a watchdog program, will be interesting to see how that goes....

Really what's the name of the show?

[max55]

Looks like it's happened!

Bought my 2008 GT Sport TDI a few months ago and after reading this thread started to get nervous. Friday afternoon of this long weekend was heading up the mountains when the engine died. Luckily I was able to coast off the the side of the road enough not to be sideswiped by B-doubles etc. My car is now tucked up at my local workshop waiting to be diagnosed. Will re-post as the saga unfolds.

[vk]

Bought my 2008 GT Sport TDI a few months ago and after reading this thread started to get nervous. Friday afternoon of this long weekend was heading up the mountains when the engine died. Luckily I was able to coast off the the side of the road enough not to be sideswiped by B-doubles etc. My car is now tucked up at my local workshop waiting to be diagnosed. Will re-post as the saga unfolds.

this worries me as i just got one of these a month ago
were there any signs before it happened?

[Greg Roles]

Cars can stutter and misfire prior to failure, but the vast majority of people report it stopping "out of the blue".

Sorry to say it is a possible problem of these cars, but so too we "believe" the cars went to the better Siemens injector mid 2008, that is manufacture date, not delivery. Check the plate in your boot beside the spare, it will tell you when it was made. Sadly mine is Sept 2007.....

[jazd]

The issue is about to be aired on UK TV on a watchdog program, will be interesting to see how that goes....

I saw on the FB page that you were asking people to write in to the BBC. So are they actually going to do an episode on it?

Sadly mine is Sept 2007.....

As is mine

[Greg Roles]

Have no idea, those posts are by the UK moderator on the facebook page, I was just asked to contribute...