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  • Noisy engine or is that just me

    Morning,
    I’ve started noticing that the engine on my Scirocco is noisy (rattles) when the car is at NOT. Sounds like tapper noise or timing chain. It’s not there when I start the car first think in the mornings. Not sure if the car has a chain or belt. Anyone know?

    It drives fine and all the instruments are normal so a little confused why it would be getting noisy when hot. Any ideas what could be causing the rattle or is that a normal thing for the 2.0 turbos?


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    These are known to be a bit noisy but if it sounds noisier when hot I'd get it checked just to be on the safe side.

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    • #3
      Thanks tigger. Have it booked in for tomorrow. I wanted to ask trusted people before taking it in to be sure the mech doesn’t spin me some story.


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      • #4
        Can you post up a short video to demonstrate the sound? How many km's on the engine?

        The engine in the Rocco R has a timing belt, but on the other side of the engine, the 2x camshafts are joined by a chain and tensioner, so its possible something isn't right there.

        If the car has a few km's under its belt (say 60k or more) it might be a good idea to change the cam follower on the HPFP which is about a $80 part (its a wear item, so its designed to wear out over time). If you are somewhat handy this is a DIY job. Cam follower - 06D109309C – V-tech Australia | Engineered Performance
        Last edited by Lucas_R; 27-09-2018, 10:58 AM.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Lucas_R View Post
          Can you post up a short video to demonstrate the sound? How many km's on the engine?

          The engine in the Rocco R has a timing belt, but on the other side of the engine, the 2x camshafts are joined by a chain and tensioner, so its possible something isn't right there.

          If the car has a few km's under its belt (say 60k or more) it might be a good idea to change the cam follower on the HPFP which is about a $80 part (its a wear item, so its designed to wear out over time). If you are somewhat handy this is a DIY job. Cam follower - 06D109309C – V-tech Australia | Engineered Performance
          Thanks for your reply, Lucas. It was really useful. The car is a 2012 with 69k on the clock. I did a search on YouTube on how to replace the follower. Easy enough to do provided you have the right tools which I don't. Might have to leave that for the service guys. I'll see if I can do a video over the weekend an upload it to the forum.

          I took the car in to the Euro specialist this morning. The guy that checked it out for me had just come from a VW dealer so I'm guessing he knew his stuff. Anyway, he said it sounded fine & is normal for the 2.0t to sound like that.

          The car is booked in for a service on the 4th so will get them to do the follower at the same time. Might have to wait a few more weeks for the Racingline upgrade now.


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          • #6
            Yep probably a good idea to change the cam follower at your next service. Some cars wear them out more quickly than others, so its hard to give a definite life span to the item - but considering its a cheap part and only takes 10-15 mins to change, its a good idea to do it. The alternative (if the cam follower wears through and breaks) is a much more expensive repair (new camshaft and new fuel pump).
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              Originally posted by Lucas_R View Post
              Yep probably a good idea to change the cam follower at your next service. Some cars wear them out more quickly than others, so its hard to give a definite life span to the item - but considering its a cheap part and only takes 10-15 mins to change, its a good idea to do it. The alternative (if the cam follower wears through and breaks) is a much more expensive repair (new camshaft and new fuel pump).
              True & good advice. Thanks for helping me Lucas. Really appreciate it.

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              • #8
                hey mate, I can show you how to do the cam follower if you like. I’ve done it a few times now with minimal tools required. Let me know, I’m at Kangaroo Point...
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                • #9
                  Sounds good

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                  • #10
                    Hey, just wanted to check if you ever got this resolved and if so what was the cause of it?

                    I've just bought a second hand scirocco r myself and am having a similar issue of a rattle noise that stops when I push the clutch in.

                    Cheers

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                    • #11
                      That'll probably be the dual mass flywheel if it changes with clutch pedal.
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                        Or maybe it was changed for a single mass by the previous owner?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by yumenuu View Post
                          Hey, just wanted to check if you ever got this resolved and if so what was the cause of it?

                          I've just bought a second hand scirocco r myself and am having a similar issue of a rattle noise that stops when I push the clutch in.

                          Cheers
                          Hey mate, mine is a dsg and I did some research on the net and found that the hpfp cam follower adds to the noise. Got that replaced and it did quite the noise but it's still there. Apparently, that's normal for these engines.

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                          • #14
                            They’re definitely not a quiet engine but as above recommend replacing the fuel pump cam follower as preventative measure.


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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Lucas_R View Post
                              Can you post up a short video to demonstrate the sound? How many km's on the engine?

                              The engine in the Rocco R has a timing belt, but on the other side of the engine, the 2x camshafts are joined by a chain and tensioner, so its possible something isn't right there.

                              If the car has a few km's under its belt (say 60k or more) it might be a good idea to change the cam follower on the HPFP which is about a $80 part (its a wear item, so its designed to wear out over time). If you are somewhat handy this is a DIY job. Cam follower - 06D109309C – V-tech Australia | Engineered Performance
                              Thanks for the tip
                              Just had my 60k service and after
                              A week I’ve got odd noises !

                              I’ll be changing the cam shortly




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