Mk7 Golf upgrade to MIBII (Discover Pro with Carplay)

[kamold]

Hi All,

Today I did an upgrade in a Golf R from the original MIB-I system to the newer MIB-II, otherwise known as Discover Pro with Apple Carplay and Android Auto.

All the hardware was supplied by forum sponsor VWCentral. I just did the installation.

The parts need to be specially modified by VWCentral to remove component protection, and match the hardware to the vehicle VIN prior to shipment.

Unfortunately I was a bit pressed for time, so wasn't able to take a lot of photos or video (and the video I took was having focus issues with the camera, sorry...)

The installation procedure once all the correct hardware is supplied is fairly straight forward.
I followed this guide: VWVortex.com - Golf 7 2013 discover pro retrofit with CARPLAY!!

I also was able to enable TMC (traffic information) for navigation, as has been done in Skodas.

The new unit is very responsive, from the little I saw of Carplay I was impressed, and the integration with the vehicle is obviously seamless being OEM.

If anyone is interested in this upgrade, get in touch with VWCentral.



I'll update this post with some more details and photos/video shortly.

[kamold]

Here is a short video of Carplay in action, please excuse the lack of focus, the camera was playing up and hunting for a focal point...

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[VW_Tim]

Hey Kamold, how much did the whole thing set you back?


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[kamold]

Not my car, I just did the installation. You'd have to speak to VWCentral to get a quote. I didn't ask, sorry

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[DV52]

Kamold: Nice work - well done! The price of the unit on the link is ---well.......... a bit high, but value is always in the eye of the buyer!!

Just one question - I assume that the coding change was meant for the addition of the USB and Iphone functionality. The link was for a LHD vehicle, so I assume that the actual code for Byte19 in Australia was HexF6 (not F4 as shown in the link). Please confirm
Don

[kamold]

Hi Don,
I can't afford a mk7 let alone upgrading one so as you say value is a proposition only for an owner.
I only have vcds, which doesn't have any details as yet for the adaptation channels for the mib2. So I actually don't know what difference flipping that bit does to the configuration....

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[DV52]

Kamold: OK, I have both cables. They each have their advantages and disadvantages. The great feature about VCP is the "login finder" - if you know a single security code, login-finder will find the other security codes for the control module. it's a slow process (10,000 numbers takes about 45 minutes to poll), but it does work! VCDS of course has the great "Long Coding Helper" facility and it is generally a more intuitive cable to use- it's the more superior product IMO

Anyhow, I've posted below the screenshot for Byte 19 showing the pertinent bits for your project. The screenshot is for a MIBI, but I suspect that it's the same for a MIBII

Actually, now that I've posted the screen shot - something is a bit odd. Your link says the Code should be HexF4 which is binary 1111 0100. If I look at the screen-shot below for Byte 19, the USB & IPhone functionality is HexC0 which is 1100 0000. The Code for RHD + Feature Band Switching + Rear View Camera, is Hex16 which is 0001 0110. So the total binary Code is 1101 0110, which is HexD6 (not HexF4 as per your link)!

If you used HexF4, you would have programmed a LHD car and you would have also activated the MOST databus. Did the MIBII unit have the OEM external amplifier (J525)? If not, I'm not sure that the MOST should be activated. If the MIBII unit did have the Digital Sound System, then you might want to have a look at Byte 4 (sub- woofer installed) and Byte 11(external sound system)

Sorry for complicating your otherwise excellent work!
Don

[kamold]

All good Don, appreciate the responses.
At this point everything is working as far as I know, so I'll have to leave well alone.
But I'll hopefully get another look at the system to check out a few more things (like radio station image tags etc) so will check those bytes and get a some details over to Ross-tech to help get some more of a library built up on these beasts.
Was my first encounter with an MQB platform in any guise...

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[samusi1]

Hello to all guys, my name is Samuel and I'm Italian, I have a MK7 GTI 2013 with Discover pro, you think I could change one unit which is in the glove compartment box with the new model 2016? in case you know how I can do and possibly a price? thank you


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[kamold]

Hi Samuel, contact vwcentral and they can get you pricing information.

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[samusi1]

thank you kamold


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[kamold]

Kamold: OK, I have both cables. They each have their advantages and disadvantages. The great feature about VCP is the "login finder" - if you know a single security code, login-finder will find the other security codes for the control module. it's a slow process (10,000 numbers takes about 45 minutes to poll), but it does work! VCDS of course has the great "Long Coding Helper" facility and it is generally a more intuitive cable to use- it's the more superior product IMO

Anyhow, I've posted below the screenshot for Byte 19 showing the pertinent bits for your project. The screenshot is for a MIBI, but I suspect that it's the same for a MIBII

Actually, now that I've posted the screen shot - something is a bit odd. Your link says the Code should be HexF4 which is binary 1111 0100. If I look at the screen-shot below for Byte 19, the USB & IPhone functionality is HexC0 which is 1100 0000. The Code for RHD + Feature Band Switching + Rear View Camera, is Hex16 which is 0001 0110. So the total binary Code is 1101 0110, which is HexD6 (not HexF4 as per your link)!

If you used HexF4, you would have programmed a LHD car and you would have also activated the MOST databus. Did the MIBII unit have the OEM external amplifier (J525)? If not, I'm not sure that the MOST should be activated. If the MIBII unit did have the Digital Sound System, then you might want to have a look at Byte 4 (sub- woofer installed) and Byte 11(external sound system)

Sorry for complicating your otherwise excellent work!
Don

The car didn't have an amp, so not too sure about the coding Don.
If I get another look at the car I'll check the coding with ODIS as the bytes are actually labelled in there.

[VW Central]

Nice work Kamold!

Don - Please note since the versions we supply are the MIB II "High" versions not released or available to order from factory. VCDS shows no information for any of the Bits. For this reason all our units are pre-configured with the options listed by the VIN number for a seamless install without needing to code anything [emoji41]

The only way to do this is via ODIS Engineering.

Please see below what it looks like;
Our part numbers are 3G0, the ones released into Australia are 3Q0 (which have no internal storage, compared to ours with 64GB Solid State).

(This one here is a MIB II high with DAB).


Hope this makes sense, please let us know if you have any questions. We've sent a request off to Ross-Tech asking if they can add support for VCDS, which would be wonderful.

[DV52]

Nice work Kamold!

Don - Please note since the versions we supply are the MIB II "High" versions not released or available to order from factory. VCDS shows no information for any of the Bits. For this reason all our units are pre-configured with the options listed by the VIN number for a seamless install without needing to code anything [emoji41]

The only way to do this is via ODIS Engineering.

Please see below what it looks like;
Our part numbers are 3G0, the ones released into Australia are 3Q0 (which have no internal storage, compared to ours with 64GB Solid State).

(This one here is a MIB II high with DAB).


Hope this makes sense, please let us know if you have any questions. We've sent a request off to Ross-Tech asking if they can add support for VCDS, which would be wonderful.

Mr VW_Central: Appreciate your response - thanks. Yes, I had no doubt that your product was "at the top end" and I expect that there will be a suitable label file for the MIBII in the near future from RT.

But, I've found that notwithstanding the additional functionality in the 2nd generation MIBs, there is still a lot of cross version similarity. For example- in your picture above, I can just see at the RHS the parameters for Byte 3 which you have highlighted. Here is the information for the same Byte on a MIBI showing a very similar Bit- pattern.

Don

PS: If the AUD exchange rate reverses dramatically, or if the price of your units drops substantially, you might have another customer (but only if Kamold does the installation)!

[VW Central]

Mr VW_Central: Appreciate your response - thanks. Yes, I had no doubt that your product was "at the top end" and I expect that there will be a suitable label file for the MIBII in the near future from RT.

But, I've found that notwithstanding the additional functionality in the 2nd generation MIBs, there is still a lot of cross version similarity. For example- in your picture above, I can just see at the RHS the parameters for Byte 3 which you have highlighted. Here is the information for the same Byte on a MIBI showing a very similar Bit- pattern.

Don

PS: If the AUD exchange rate reverses dramatically, or if the price of your units drops substantially, you might have another customer (but only if Kamold does the installation)!

Thanks Don,

Perhaps if you want to screenshot every byte/bit for every window, we can try and collaborate what is what in the mean time.

Unfortunately, with the MIB I/MIB II (high) units ONLY the 6.5" & 8" can be used. Therefore, it's not just a simple swap out of the control unit, the entire centre vent needs to be changed and a new display to be supplied in addition to the USB port (to support the "iPod" capabilities).

Kamold has all the installation procedures, tools & radio logos! [emoji41]