MK5 stereo install advice

[Mr ©harisma]

Yeah that must suck dude. What do people use over there to get loud? Obviously the stereotype that you all use Fusion gear has lifted a bit... Are they on Audiocontrol or Termilab?

I had to laugh when I seen a High Octane movie and they showed him getting 146 or 147db out of 2 sealed Sony woofers powered off a Sony amp... definately not an accurate number.

[Greg Roles]

Hey guys,

Hmmmm, some interesting sub options to explore. Thanks for the ideas and input. I've got an old school US Van Gough amp, with plenty of power, and it will drive a sub nicely.

I'm purely after sound quality; I'm not into letting the surrounding suburb know what I am listening to. The sort of sub you can crank on the highway and drown out the road noise. I'd be happy with that.

I looked at the wheel well but it certainly isn't deep enough unless I make a false floor. That said, it may well be a great option, good mix of some useable boot space and a smaller sub or two.

I agree I need to do something, for the stock system, whilst obviously basic sounds rather poor without a sub. I actually prefer to listen to the rattly diesel!

Will look into those DD's, heard LOTs about that brand and know very little about them.

[Mr ©harisma]

I would not get a DD if you are after sound quality. What is your budget?

There is not point me suggesting that a Hertz Mille will do perfectly if your not willing to spend $1k.

[glidn]

if you can try and find an RE audio RE8 or the likes of a Focal 8. Otherwise get an atomic or image dynamix 8". Those should set you right. But for SQ and space required the RE8 would be my pic of the lot. And it will fit neatly into the left rear corner of your car rather nicely.

[Greg Roles]

Thanks lads. More great ideas.

I appreciate your input, as I've been "out of the scene" for a few years now, and am a bit behind the latest.

I'd be hesitant to spend more than $500 odd on a sub, as that's about where a G5 kicks in ( for me anyway ; )

I'll do some looking around at your suggestions and let you know what I find. Car is a week old today, so much to do before I really need a sub.

Fun times ahead!

[Greg Roles]

Lads, DD's and the RE's look great ( very hot little subs! ), but Mr C is on the money with the G510, 14.8 Litre sealed box! Wow.

The others recommend at least a cubic foot - 28L.

I think we have a winner.

[glidn]

the RE8 should set back around $199ish.

it works in boxes from as small as 6 Litres, but i would recommend around 10 - 13 litres, blends in with the front alot better IMHO.

Never heard of the G510, i think i'll do some investigation on that.

[qsilverza]

Hey Charisma, Glad to see you here ! (CAA)

I have a G5 in my Bora and it sounds pretty good. My only complaint is that the extra weight really affected the handling so I have pulled it out for now. The plan was orginally to have two G5's running off my amp each seeing 1400 W's in parallel but I might neg on that.

Anyway's all I can say is I think you will be happy with the G5 and I would love to hear your thoughts on the radiator when you get it.

Good thing with the matting but remember not to use to much if you want to keep the car somewhat sporty.

[glidn]

For what is worth, this is what i did for a guy in his Bora.

[Greg Roles]

Awesome info guys, and Glidn that's exactly where my thoughts are going. Nice install! Just keen to get the volume correct, obviously easier in a regular box. Have to somehow try to tie in the radiator if i go G5, just cause you can!

I agree overkill with dynamat is unecessary ( for my needs anyway... ), and other parts are coming out, so the weight gain won't be too great. I have a large box full of "extra" bits out of the car already. As for "sporty", I'm planning on tweaking more than just the stereo. Visited my friendly APR guy today to get some ideas.... : )

[Greg Roles]

the RE8 should set back around $199ish.

it works in boxes from as small as 6 Litres, but i would recommend around 10 - 13 litres, blends in with the front alot better IMHO.

Never heard of the G510, i think i'll do some investigation on that.

You love the RE hey!

Won't rule it out, as it would certainly be light, and that is always a plus for the twisty stuff. I'd guess it'd be a lot shallower too, easier to fit in glidn's pic example above. Cheaper too, let me get other goodies quicker!

Thing is in the performance vs volume ratio, what beats the G510?

I've got a very modestly rated 500RMS to feed a sub...

[Mr ©harisma]

Hey Charisma, Glad to see you here ! (CAA)

I have a G5 in my Bora and it sounds pretty good. My only complaint is that the extra weight really affected the handling so I have pulled it out for now. The plan was orginally to have two G5's running off my amp each seeing 1400 W's in parallel but I might neg on that.

Anyway's all I can say is I think you will be happy with the G5 and I would love to hear your thoughts on the radiator when you get it.

Good thing with the matting but remember not to use to much if you want to keep the car somewhat sporty.

lol are you stalking me. Yeah thought I better off load some of my knowledge, or lack there of

The G5 10inch should be fine, I would also recommend something like:
Oz Audio Me 10.2
Treo TSX 10inch
Hertz HX250

Either one of those 4 will be fine and loud in a sealed enclosure. When I had the G5 it would blend in awesomely if I had some 7 / 8 or 9inch mids. However only having 6.5inch mids the Oz Me that I replaced it with has a lot more punch but not quite the rumble.

Does your car have that flap on the side for the first aid kit? That would be the perfect place to do something similar.

[glidn]

Haha, yeah i like the RE8 more for the Fact that it not only goes insanely loud without all that much power. And secondly it requires the least space for a sealed enclosure that i came across against anything else.

I'm currently running 2xRE8 at around 500 - 700WRMS. And they are doing a remarkable job.

I use to run a single RE12, only at a mere 300wrms, and i actually took it out of the car about 3 days later. IT was way to much, it just had way to much kick but it too blended nicely, was not sloppy and all that. But LOUD SQ or stupidly LOUD SPL, it did a great job. But again i need the space in my car.

Hence the RE8 fit the bill in all catagories. Small Sub, Small box, does not need massive power, loud output and it does not cost all that much.

But they do 10 and a 12 if you really want. and the RE audio - RE range is the entry level subs, and the 5 more levels to go up to.

Well the Boston G510 appears to be one very nice sub, but it defeats the purpose of a small sealed enclosure for the size of the magnet. It volume in the box maybe tiny. But way to big IMO.

I did hope someone in NZ would have done Hertz or Oz audio, but alas no one do these either.

But the likes of the morel and that, just simply ship from the states.

[Greg Roles]

Ahh, so THAT's what that strap thing is in the boot, a first aid holder. Couldn't work it out! That'd be the side, for it's opposite me for weight distribution as well.

Great ideas, and Glidn, you're right about the depth of the bigger speakers. I'll do some measuring and cardboard mockups, and get serious about the space I can afford, THEN find the sub to suit. Otherwise it's just piss!ng in the wind...

[Greg Roles]

OK, I've played with the tape measure and putting in even a shallow 10" would be a mission to keep it nice and level with the wheel arch. I'm even wondering where the heck to put the amp I have! Space is the major factor for me, I may dream of a 12" in a box, but I know it will spend a lot of time out of the car, which defeats the purpose.

Seems the left side would give a "box" volume around 10-13 litres if I do a bit of metal work for the magnet.That RE8 is starting to look pretty good.

I've heard these Hertz speakers mentioned like gods before...are they REALLY that great, or is it the old law of diminishing returns?