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  • Is there a DIY instruction for installing the reverse camera in a Golf Variant (Jetta Sportwagen in the US)? Routing wires? Tapping reverse light wiring? etc...

    Paul.

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    • Originally posted by Na2eL View Post
      Thanks DkN.

      another question please, will any of these units fit old cars? am asking about Skoda Fabia 2001
      Not that old, unfortunately. The model with the older car compatibility is the ANS-420 / 410 which fits B5 Passat and mk4 Golf / mk5 Polo, but for Fabia that shape only goes back to 2006. That's not to say you can't modify your dash to make it fit though, if that's what you're into.

      Originally posted by schultp View Post
      Is there a DIY instruction for installing the reverse camera in a Golf Variant (Jetta Sportwagen in the US)? Routing wires? Tapping reverse light wiring? etc...

      Paul.
      Here you go:

      How to install OEM backup camera on mk5 mk6 VW Golf or VW Jetta Sportwagen TDI JSW

      Keep in mind that is for the badge camera install, plus with the newer revision of current ANS units as well as the new platform, there is a dedicated RVC power wire and you will not need to tap the reverse light.
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      • Originally posted by DkN View Post
        Not that old, unfortunately. The model with the older car compatibility is the ANS-420 / 410 which fits B5 Passat and mk4 Golf / mk5 Polo, but for Fabia that shape only goes back to 2006. That's not to say you can't modify your dash to make it fit though, if that's what you're into.


        Here you go:

        How to install OEM backup camera on mk5 mk6 VW Golf or VW Jetta Sportwagen TDI JSW

        Keep in mind that is for the badge camera install, plus with the newer revision of current ANS units as well as the new platform, there is a dedicated RVC power wire and you will not need to tap the reverse light.
        I was asking for a friend of mine and he is not looking to do modify anything.

        Speaking of new units, any updates?

        Thanks again DkN.

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        • Originally posted by DkN View Post
          Here you go:

          How to install OEM backup camera on mk5 mk6 VW Golf or VW Jetta Sportwagen TDI JSW

          Keep in mind that is for the badge camera install, plus with the newer revision of current ANS units as well as the new platform, there is a dedicated RVC power wire and you will not need to tap the reverse light.
          I bought an RVC boot handle set-up on aliexpress since Audiosource sent me the wrong camera for my vehicle. I went ahead and performed the installation yesterday prior to your response by using the provided instructions that came with the RVC.

          1. I tapped the right rear reverse light power line (blue-black) and connected this directly to the power (red) wire of the RVC.
          2. I then spliced the RVC negative line (black) to the ground line (brown) in the rear tail light plug.
          3. I ran the RCA video cable to the front of the car through the headliner and connected it to the back of the ANS-810 at the connector labelled 'Cam IN'. It was a yellow RCA jack with a green wire.

          I don't get any reverse video feed when I place the manual trans in reverse. I get no video feed at all. And, my right rear reverse light does not work. I have checked my splices and even re-did them. They are all soldered and show continuity using a multimeter. All fuses are good.

          So, what else do I need to do? I assumed that since this is an aftermarket RVC and head unit that I do not have to use VCDS to activate the backup camera. Is this correct?

          Any idea why the reverse light I spliced into is not working? All connections check out as good. Bulb is good too. Am I missing something??

          Here's the instructions that came with the RVC:



          Paul
          Last edited by schultp; 01-04-2013, 02:26 AM.

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          • OK, so I went for a drive and was playing the radio. I randomly had the OPS screen activate along with muting the sound. I couldn't get out of this screen but it randomly would revert back to the radio. It tended to revert back when I stopped at a traffic stop but was not all the time. It was not related to gear changes, being in neutral, or applying the brakes.

            It definitely appears I have something wired incorrectly. If anyone can guide me in the right direction I'd greatly appreciate it. The RVC never activated at anytime during this bizarre sequence of events.

            Paul.

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            • Originally posted by schultp View Post
              OK, so I went for a drive and was playing the radio. I randomly had the OPS screen activate along with muting the sound. I couldn't get out of this screen but it randomly would revert back to the radio. It tended to revert back when I stopped at a traffic stop but was not all the time. It was not related to gear changes, being in neutral, or applying the brakes.

              It definitely appears I have something wired incorrectly. If anyone can guide me in the right direction I'd greatly appreciate it. The RVC never activated at anytime during this bizarre sequence of events.

              Paul.
              The instructions that come with the RVC are generic. Don't wire the power directly to the reverse light, use a relay switch. Get the relay from your reverse light and wire power to an ACC 12v source like your cigarette lighter or the antenna power wire behind your ANS unit.
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              • Originally posted by DkN View Post
                The instructions that come with the RVC are generic. Don't wire the power directly to the reverse light, use a relay switch. Get the relay from your reverse light and wire power to an ACC 12v source like your cigarette lighter or the antenna power wire behind your ANS unit.
                I'll convert to a relay set up. But, would the lack of a relay set up really lead to it not working?

                Paul.

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                • Originally posted by schultp View Post
                  I'll convert to a relay set up. But, would the lack of a relay set up really lead to it not working?

                  Paul.
                  No
                  Did you plug into the Rev (back ) cam rca input or the aux cam input?

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                  • Schultp,

                    Agree with DkN on this. I had a similar experience when setting up a generic RVC with ANS810. I had tapped into the reverse light power and checked to confirm that I was getting 12V to the cam when in reverse. Even so the camera refused to display when I put into reverse gear. I changed the wiring to get the power from the 12V supply in the boot instead and all worked as it should. Use a relay and it should be OK.

                    Sam

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                    • Originally posted by schultp View Post
                      I'll convert to a relay set up. But, would the lack of a relay set up really lead to it not working?

                      Paul.
                      Yes, the reverse light power is monitored by the CAN-Bus and may or may not respond well to a direct power tap. It varies from car to car (works for some, doesn't work for others) but issues with directly tapping the reverse light generally on VW vehicles have been previously documented. If you want to know the specifics, I believe it has something to do with the reverse light signal being a pulse signal.

                      The OPS coming up by itself is interesting though, I've not heard of that happening. The OPS can function without the reverse camera so theoretically it shouldn't be affected by the RVC, however it's possible that the software has a failsafe that if for some reason if the OPS did not switch on when it's supposed to, it will still switch on if power is supplied to the RVC. This would mean an unstable power source that perhaps feeds a little bit of power to the camera when not in reverse could trick the OPS into turning on.
                      Last edited by DkN; 01-04-2013, 03:33 PM.
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                      • i put in a rvc over the weekend, it was a number plate surround one but the principles are the same.

                        i ran the video wire and a thin twin core electrical cable (for 12v and ground) from the boot along the passenger side of the car over the top of the glovebox and into the back of the radio, this was the hardest part of the install.

                        i then tapped the brown (back conn) for 12v power and the black wire on the big quadlock for the ground, camera powers up and works fine!

                        the camera has built in stationary guide lines and the ans has its own so they "interfere" with one and other, so if your getting a camera make sure it DOESN'T have guide lines.

                        as for getting the wiring from the camera into the boot i used this guide...

                        Installing an aftermarket Rear View Camera (RVC) into a Golf Mark V and VI rear bumper | my-gti.com

                        saves having to take the bumper off, i need to get a new camera without guidelines - anyone have any recommendations, i was thinking about these...

                        2 LED Light Car Reverse Backup Camera Wired Rearview Camera Waterproof 150 Angle | eBay

                        Night Vision Car Rear View Reverse Backup Color Camera | eBay

                        anyone have any experience with the ones that mount to the number plate bulb lense...

                        170º Wide Night Vision Car Rear View Reverse Camera For VW Golf 2010 Scirocco UK | eBay

                        also along with the blue and black wires on the big quadlock, theres also a yellow wire - any ideas what this is for?

                        while i had the radio out i fitted a dual fakra adapter it WASN'T a diversity one but it improved reception a million times, this maybe also down to the fact that its now powered!

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                        • I use this one.
                          CCD Reverse Camera for VW Beetle Passat Golf Polo Jetta PHAETON | Skoda Superb | eBay
                          The one they sent has no lines but might be an idea to ask whoever you buy from.
                          Good clear pic, easy fitment.
                          The one you listed 170º Wide Night Vision Car Rear View Reverse Camera For VW Golf 2010 Scirocco UK | eBay looks ok too.
                          Prev 2008 R32 3 door DSG.
                          Prev 2010 S3 Sportback Stronic.
                          Now Lexus IS350 F Sport

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                          • I ordered a relay and socket pigtail from Amazon. I'll be away on a business trip but will install next week and post a follow up on how everything turns out.

                            Paul.

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                            • Yes if you use the brown back conn wire then you wouldn't need a relay, since that wire is designed to directly power the camera.

                              Regarding the reversing lines, in later firmware there are two sets both stationary and dynamic, they've done this because this is how it looks on the RNS-510. Personally I don't see much point in keeping the stationary lines, but I guess you can then see where you'll go if you straighten up?
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                              • This is how the screen without stationary lines :

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