DAB+ radio anyone????

[FSI 220]

Just spent the morning interrogating the Webisphere on the "Autodab" in case that is the way this is heading ...

rather elegant solution that... except it looks like it FM modulates, at least is looks like it interrups the antenna wire and injects the signal straight in to the FM antenna... I guess the question is do you run discreet left right into the aux circuit and fly blind, or use RSDS functionality to transmit track data and allow for interaction and feedback.... I expect injecting a strong clean FM signal off a good DAC is going to clobber a dirty, lossy, over the air FM transmission.



I was hoping for the native RCD510 behaviour (in europe) where a DAB signal loss has the unit flicking back to FM (if co-transmitted)...

Or to be honest, I was hoping Motive was going down something like this path

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/forums/f78/navigation-rcd-510-a-67058.html

with integrated everything including DigiTV (an including garmin nav for us low class RCD types) but that would be wishfull thinking


Back to the real world... the Autodab style device is better than no dab, and at least is clean looking as long as the antena solution is discreet. I'll def be interested at the right price point.

[Ryan_R]

http://www.motivauto.com/

Digital Radio is here


...I'm still looking into it


Not enough tech info or installation instructions for me to take the plunge just yet. Will PM Motiv asking for more info.


Also did a quick YouTube search and came up with this, but I have no idea if it's the same product we're looking at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIw83EzAWRA

[MotivAuto]

Dear ALL

We have finished our testing of the DAB+ product in VW vehicles just recently.

The product does not operate in the same manner as what the video suggests above. For that type of integration the radio itself has a built-in DAB+ receiver, including the necessary antenna connection in the vehicle. The Radio above is an RNS315.

In Australia our VW vehicles are not specified with this type of radio nor antenna connection, so the only solution is to add an aftermarket piece. MotivAuto is offering the Media DAB+ to connect and pick up DAB+ audio stations in Australia. These stations vary based on the location of the vehicle (meaning, in some cities its more stations). For a complete station guide please visit, Digital Radio Plus: HOME

Now, our system, Media DAB+ receives the digital signal via DAB+ antenna mounted discretely in the vehicle (internally or externally) and modulates it to the OEM head unit installed in the vehicle. The control of the system is via the steering wheel controls of the vehicle.

The main features of the Media DAB+ for VW are:
- User menu displayed on the car radio display by RDS
- Vocal synthesis of the main information and menu headings
- Interface control through CAN BUS steering wheel commands (self learning)
- CD Quality FM stereo modulation with 8 selectable frequencies
- RDS data and information on the OE Radio display
- USB input for upgrading SW
- Plug'n'Play connections to the vehicle via Quadlock harness
- Double or single fakra connection to new DAB+ antenna

Currently we are working on the specific installation manual for VW. But essentially you use the Volume Up/Down to access the system and "Previous" and "Next" buttons to access the various stations. Its all verbal in the car, so when you turn the system on it speaks to you, "Welcome to Media DAB" and from there it works flawlessly.

Together with a paper installation manual we are working on a installation video (install a Golf VI GTI) including mounting of the antenna.

We hope to have this product ready for launch mid-April 2012.

If you wish to know more or even see a kit working please let me know as we are Melbourne based and can demo our GTI with the Media DAB+ installed.

Thanks

[Transporter]

That's a good news. Approximately, how much it will cost?

[Ryan_R]

Would like to see photos/video of product in action - RNS510 + MFI interface
You seem to stress that control is via the s. wheel. This is a good thing, but are you implying that you can't control it directly via the HU?
Not terribly keen on voice-communication/synthesis.

Keep us posted on the demo GTI too. I'd like to get this product, but only if it doesn't make the interface feel 'cheaper' (in want of a better word).

[The_Hawk]

Same story here, would love to see the working unit and some pricing.

[quackie]

Hmm, any sneak peek of MediaDAB+?

[Ryan_R]

I've been informed that we might see a video before the end of May regarding this. Looking forward to seeing it in action and potentially installing a new toy.

[alebonau]

was suggested in another thread I post the below here,

"
I have used the pure highway
Highway - In-car Digital Radio with FM Transmitter.

there is a more upto date model out now, in the highway 300Di
Highway 300Di - In-Car Digital Radio and Audio Adapter with Full iPod/iPhone/iPad/USB Control.

what is even better if want a completely out of the way solution is I would think a device such as this,
Mobile Electronics AU | Articles | DAB+ Solution from Stinger Australia
now being sold in australia by stinger australia,

and they sell a kit for vw range,
AutoDAB - Range
VW OEM AutoDAB Car Digital Radio Tuner DAB Add on Adaptor | eBay
"

it looks like some discussion of the autodab in this thread already. I think probably most exciting dab+ solution yet. especially since they have a kit for vw cars

what is even more exciting is the news vw will be doing dab as standard over in uk/europe

VW announces 2013 models will have DAB as standard
VW has confirmed that DAB digital radio will be fitted as standard across all models (except one, the VW UP!) from 2013. VW represents almost 10% of the in-vehicle market and this announcement keeps the UK on track to hit its target for the majority of new cars having digital radio as standard by the end of 2013.

http://www.worlddab.org/news/document/2146/Eureka__17_FINAL_110612_lores__2_.pdf

now lets just hope that means we get the same

[The_Hawk]

So is there anything further on pricing yet? I also not that it talks about RCD510 but not RNS510?

I'm still interested depending on what it ends up costing and how well it actually integrates.

[tonymy01]

Not all DAB are equal though, Australia uses DAB+ I believe.

[alebonau]

So is there anything further on pricing yet? I also not that it talks about RCD510 but not RNS510?

I'm still interested depending on what it ends up costing and how well it actually integrates.

something maybe worth checking with stinger australia and let us know. I'm definitely interested. problem is lease on my car finishes up in less than a year. so probably not a good idea to install something like this right now. If decide to keep the golf for few years past that maybe. but likely be moving on and if get another new car if doesnt come with dab+ I'd definitely be looking at getting something like the autodab. So yeah golf gti or alfa giulietta an autodab is something quite likely be following up next year

[Ryan_R]

I just upgraded my BlueTooth to 9W7 so I can stream TuneIn (Internet) Radio from my phone so I'll stick with that for now and wait for some videos showing these internal kits in action on the RNS510.

[99_FGT]

Yeah, is interesting that Stinger appear to have a PnP product to market soon (although availability will tell). The UK ones are, as Ton pointed out, are DAB not DAB+.
Am concerned that pricing will be ridiculous though - I notice that car AV equipment was outside of the scope of the federal government review for gouging in AUS.
Al..
Edit: The AutoDAB is apprarently compatible with DAB+ as well, but the stinger information seems to suggest that it needs a differenet antenna. The Connects2 information - who manufacture the unit - do not make any comment on it.

[FSI 220]

I just upgraded my BlueTooth to 9W7 so I can stream TuneIn (Internet) Radio from my phone so I'll stick with that for now and wait for some videos showing these internal kits in action on the RNS510.

I am doing that as well... but the bit-rate is generally crook, (albeit there is something special in listening to Salsa in New York, Jazz in London, or trance out of Ibiza whilst driving home from work on the Cumberland hwy) ... DAB+ is meant to be all about the clarity of sound... looking forward to a solution that is at the right price...