ECU upgrades, poweroutputs and prices

[Pappon]

Hi guys

I wanted to compile a list of all ECUs, poweroutputs and prices for the MKV GOLF GTI as i couldn't find them on the site, little info about power and prices were here so i've so far compiled these. A point to note is that real world figures/dyno results can result in the power output claimed not being reached.


APR 188kw/411Nm $1695

Custom Code 186kw/330Nm $1050

DNA basic tune 184kW/380Nm, $730
aggressive 188kW/405Nm $730

GIAC ? $1095

Superchips ? $?



If you can throw in all others that would be great as for beginners who end up buying a GTI they as i ask the same question. I'm sure many won't care but many will be interested in this information. I was going to edit/add as people throw in the others.
I've also listed the title starting with ECU so when a search is done on 'ECU" this should come up for newbies like myself.

[Romp]

Hi guys

I wanted to compile a list of all ECUs, poweroutputs and prices as i couldn't find them on the site, little info about power and prices were here so i've so far compiled these:


APR 188kw/411Nm $1695

Custom Code 186kw/330Nm $?

DNA basic tune 184kW/380Nm, $730
aggressive 188kW/405Nm $730

GIAC ? $?

Superchips ? $?



If you can throw in all others that would be great as for beginners who end up buying a GTI they as i ask the same question. I'm sure many won't care but many will be interested in this information. I was going to edit/add as people throw in the others.
I've also listed the title starting with ECU so when a search is done on 'ECU" this should come up for newbies like myself.

Giac is $1095

I reckon u should talk to peoplr with each installed and go for a ride if u can too... Quoted figures vs actual drivability and proven dynos are two diff things.

[noone]

Are these quoted outputs or dyno results?

I'm thinking MkV GTI?

[The_Hawk]

I reckon u should talk to peoplr with each installed and go for a ride if u can too... Quoted figures vs actual drivability and proven dynos are two diff things.

Romp is right on the money there. Price and max power are good things to know, but there are many other factors to be considered at the same time including not only drive ability but also service and support. If you just want to break things down to $/kW you should probably consider a Falcadore V8 instead.

[Transporter]

Hi guys

I wanted to compile a list of all ECUs, poweroutputs and prices as i couldn't find them on the site, little info about power and prices were here so i've so far compiled these:


APR 188kw/411Nm $1695

Custom Code 186kw/330Nm $?

DNA basic tune 184kW/380Nm, $730
aggressive 188kW/405Nm $730

GIAC ? $?

Superchips ? $?



If you can throw in all others that would be great as for beginners who end up buying a GTI they as i ask the same question. I'm sure many won't care but many will be interested in this information. I was going to edit/add as people throw in the others.
I've also listed the title starting with ECU so when a search is done on 'ECU" this should come up for newbies like myself.

For that, I'm sure if you ring the companies they would tell you the cost, or you can search the forums to find out, but I don't think that we need another 100+ discussion about chips and prices or bang for your buck.

[h100vw]

$1050 would be the normal price but there's always a deal to be had somewhere. Free t-shirt and stickers.

[kaanage]

And there are other cars (even VWs) besides GTi's (and which model?) that can have their ECU tuned.

[Pappon]

For that, I'm sure if you ring the companies they would tell you the cost, or you can search the forums to find out, but I don't think that we need another 100+ discussion about chips and prices or bang for your buck.

I did search extensively on the forums and couldn't find what I was looking for.

[noone]

What you are after is pricing?

This changes, often easter, christmas, etc sales...

As mentioned this is for the Mk5 Golf, which differs in pricing to other models (non Golf, non Mk5, non GTI), so if you want to compile a reference database, you will need to think about how you want to go about this.

It COULD be really helpful, but there are lots of options. I think you would need to create a link to a spreadsheet if you wanted to provide a full gambit of code provided for various cars...

Also, I think you need to provide some more info on quoted power vs peak dyno power vs average dyno power. There is lots of complexity then about which stages require which mods, generic or specific upgrades, etc...

See where this is going? Gets complex very quickly, thats why its not listed as a sticky...

IMO, quoted KW numbers from tuners tell very little of the story, I think you are better getting some average dyno readings and sticking to comparing Stage 1 only...

If you nail it, it would be great, but be prepared to get flamed by people who's dyno results are higher / lower, think their tune is the bees knees and want to rep their torque curves, etc...

Good luck.

[nat225]

Superchips Bluefin Stage 1 is $699 from GC Corp

GC Corp Performance Parts

This tune is milder than the others.

[Lucas_R]

Have any of you guys ever realised or questioned that fact that the majority (or all) of the chip manufacturers are quoting tune figures for the Golf R with 265HP as the starting point. Now a simple HP to KW convertor will show you that 265HP = 199kw.........so this is the european spec version of the engine.

As im sure most of you are aware, Australia gets a de-tuned version of this engine (for our hotter climate etc) and this leaves us with 188kw (252HP) and 330nm as the starting point.

So.....two questions i am asking you and i have also emailed APR / Bluefin etc etc for their answers.

1) Can Australian buyers expect the same peak HP/KW and NM figures as stated on all of the tuning company's dyno graphs? I believe the de-tuned version of the engines we get here in Australia is a computer based de-tune anyway (engine and turbo etc is identical)

2) If this is the case, then when we are getting our cars tuned, we are actually getting larger gains in both HP/KW and NM than what the tuners dyno graphs are showing.

APR (they quote a 265HP / 199kw starting point - European spec engine)
APR - High Performance Development for Audi, VW and Porsche Vehicles.

Bluefin (they also quote a 199kw starting point - European spec engine)
http://www.mybluefin.com.au/search?m...5&variant=2226

REVO (no specific listing for the Golf R but i looked up Audi S3 and it says 40HP / 60NM increase from a 260HP starting point)
Performance ECU Tuning Software by Revo Technik

GIAC (rubbish website and no specific data for the Golf R so i used the Audi S3). Says an increase of 25-45HP
GIAC - Software Programs


Ill be getting my R tuned in about 4-6 weeks once i have put a few more kms on the clock and am very heavily considering going with the Bluefin as its several hundred $ cheaper than Revo or Giac, half the price of APR - quotes very similar power and torque figures to all the others - and offers ME the option to revert back to stock if ever needed while my car is under warranty.

Being based in Newcastle, i don't like the thought of having to drive the car down to Sydney if there is an issue with my tune or if VW wipe it from the ECU while doing a service. The convenience of having that control is getting a thumbs up for Bluefin.

[DNA Tuning]

Pappon was asking about Mk V GTI as per his other thread. $730 for this tune; pictured dyno graph is from a Skoda Octavia, which runs the same 2.0TFSI K03 Bosch MED9 engine as the Mk V GTI. No other mods at all, just our 188kW/405Nm tune. How the dyno numbers correlate to the specification is always open to interpretation, but what I can say for sure is how smooth our tune is; even smoother than the stock power curve.

The same tune is available for MED17 2.0TSI engines ie. Mk 6 GTI for $830.

[Lucas_R]

I would love to be able to consider your custom tune, but unfortunately the fact that you are Melbourne based just isn't practical for me. Even the couple of custom places based in Sydney are too far away to be practical.

Pappon was asking about Mk V GTI as per his other thread. $730 for this tune; pictured dyno graph is from a Skoda Octavia, which runs the same 2.0TFSI K03 Bosch MED9 engine as the Mk V GTI. No other mods at all, just our 188kW/405Nm tune. How the dyno numbers correlate to the specification is always open to interpretation, but what I can say for sure is how smooth our tune is; even smoother than the stock power curve.

The same tune is available for MED17 2.0TSI engines ie. Mk 6 GTI for $830.

[kaanage]

I would love to be able to consider your custom tune, but unfortunately the fact that you are Melbourne based just isn't practical for me. Even the couple of custom places based in Sydney are too far away to be practical.

John can bundle the DNA Tuning maps with the SRS-II switcher which operates like the Bluefin so you can revert to stock and back.
Viezu use the same switcher but labelled as the V-Switch for the same functionality at very good prices too - see here.

Both John and Simon (Viezu) are nice guys too so it's worth contacting both of them to see what can be done for your 'R'

[Gti Dave]

The dyno graph presented in the above is from my Skoda Octavia RS's dyno run so I can vouch for DNA's tune. Very happy with it and very comfortable to live with on a daily basis. Even the partner doesn't know its tuned (well at least until you step on the throttle a bit further, then all hell breaks loose).