Wax vs Polish - The Difference

[Rannerz]

yeah autoglym i meant sorry.

I find the 3M products to be the best, except the new 3m Extra cut.
Juice Q-Cut is a great extra cut product.
I use these products on a daily basis at work. I have tried other products from off the shelf, but I have always found 3M and Juice to be the best

[Wolfgang]

Also with clay blocks. A lot of people use them on their cars for a better clean. A clay block is designed for the removal of rail dust, paint overspray, and industrial fallout. There are plenty of chemicals and other cleaning products out there that can remove other contaminants just as well and may be cheaper and easier.
My 2000 GTI is in need to good clay blocking, as the original owner lived near and industrial area of Adelaide. So the entire car is covered in fallout. Easy process, but a very time consuming one too.

To cut down your claying tme use a decontamination gel like Wolfs Decon Gel (avaliable from CCP) before you clay. It will dissolve any ferrous material bonded to the paint. Great for cleaning wheels too.

[Rannerz]

it took me an hour and a half to clay block my car today. only the smallest bit i missed on the front windshield and sunroof. But i used a razor blade and window cleaner to get that off. Car still needs a polish, but ill do that at a later time.

[Njay]

my bmw is covered in tiny light scratches not sure where from, whats the best product to help remove them

[Wolfgang]

it took me an hour and a half to clay block my car today. only the smallest bit i missed on the front windshield and sunroof. But i used a razor blade and window cleaner to get that off. Car still needs a polish, but ill do that at a later time.

Call me strange but I kinda like claying a car.

my bmw is covered in tiny light scratches not sure where from, whats the best product to help remove them

Light scratches are more than likely from washing the car, unavoidalble if you want a clean car.

You have a few options, not worry about them, machine polish the car (or get a pro detailer to), use a glaze that will fill and conceal the scratches for a few months.

[Rannerz]

Light scratches are more than likely from washing the car, unavoidalble if you want a clean car.

You have a few options, not worry about them, machine polish the car (or get a pro detailer to), use a glaze that will fill and conceal the scratches for a few months.

I'd prefer to give the car a decent cut to remove the scratches completely. Then give it a good glaze afterwards.

[wfdTamar]

First it seems the free shipping for forum members for an order over $150 (mentioned early in this thread) is not applicable any more. You do get a slight discount on some items though.

Question - I've got a dark grey car. I have Menzerna polishing stuff with a dual action polisher:

FG500 - Fast gloss Cutting Compound
PF2500 - Power finish Light Cutting Compound
SF4000 - Super finish Fine Finishing Polish
SWProtect - Protective Paint Sealant

1. Should I use the SWProtect given the Duragloss below? If so, at what stage?

and Duragloss:
601 Polish bonding agent
105 Total performance polish
921 Fast clean & shine

2. Is there any point waxing over that or is it conflicting with the DuraGloss (because that's more a sealant isn't it?) ?

Generally I want durability rather than outright shine (that needs to be applied more often). So I'm thinking a sealant system, but maybe put on a wax if I want to give it a super sparkle occasionally. I'm just not sure if that's technically/chemically possible.

Bit later - after a bit of Googling seems you can wax over a sealant, but leave the sealant to 'cure' for a couple of days first. More of benefit for darker cars.

[carcareproducts]

Hey mate,

There is no free shipping for over $150, as it was a promotion and was just recently on again so you may of missed out?

For wax over sealant, you can but really there no huge benefit in looks. You will make a darker colour darker, but how much better it will look is much of a muchness. Durability it wont extend the life of the sealant really as the sealant outdoes a natural carnauba wax anyhow.

So you're on the right track basically!

Cheers

First it seems the free shipping for forum members for an order over $150 (mentioned early in this thread) is not applicable any more. You do get a slight discount on some items though.

Question - I've got a dark grey car. I have Menzerna polishing stuff with a dual action polisher:

FG500 - Fast gloss Cutting Compound
PF2500 - Power finish Light Cutting Compound
SF4000 - Super finish Fine Finishing Polish
SWProtect - Protective Paint Sealant

1. Should I use the SWProtect given the Duragloss below? If so, at what stage?

and Duragloss:
601 Polish bonding agent
105 Total performance polish
921 Fast clean & shine

2. Is there any point waxing over that or is it conflicting with the DuraGloss (because that's more a sealant isn't it?) ?

Generally I want durability rather than outright shine (that needs to be applied more often). So I'm thinking a sealant system, but maybe put on a wax if I want to give it a super sparkle occasionally. I'm just not sure if that's technically/chemically possible.

Bit later - after a bit of Googling seems you can wax over a sealant, but leave the sealant to 'cure' for a couple of days first. More of benefit for darker cars.

[wfdTamar]

It's just you mention it on page 4 of this thread with no conditions (time limit) so people reading through may think it still applies.

Yes, I missed it (free ship over $150 Queenie special) by a few days. Might have got a lance and polisher too with the extras you offered then.

I wasn't thinking the wax would give more protection (well, any more than the sealant is going to give) just purtyness for when I get a bit OCD about it all


Still interested to know if I should be using the Menzerna SWProtect at the end of polishing (before doing the Duragloss sealing) or is the Duragloss 601 just going to take it off anyway? Jeez, maybe I shouldn't have bothered with any of the Duragloss stuff.

[wfdTamar]

Ok, for the record. Did the DuraGloss and look, it's ok, but not speccy. Then I put on Ion Coat Naviwax Dark (yes, I have been buying from the competition, because no one dealer has all I was after in stock). First, it goes on really easily - not sure if that was because of the Duragloss, or just would have anyway, I dunno, but I was able to apply to the whole car very quickly and it did shine up very nicely. Also didn't use much wax at all.

I'd say worth doing and easy enough to do once a month. Whole car is looking pretty good, except for the paint chips. Tried my best to treat them with a genuine paint chip kit (paint and clear coat), but it's the hardest part of the whole process.

Here's a (not very good) photo:

http://flic.kr/p/cxETZN

[carcareproducts]

Ok, for the record. Did the DuraGloss and look, it's ok, but not speccy. Then I put on Ion Coat Naviwax Dark (yes, I have been buying from the competition, because no one dealer has all I was after in stock). First, it goes on really easily - not sure if that was because of the Duragloss, or just would have anyway, I dunno, but I was able to apply to the whole car very quickly and it did shine up very nicely. Also didn't use much wax at all.

I'd say worth doing and easy enough to do once a month. Whole car is looking pretty good, except for the paint chips. Tried my best to treat them with a genuine paint chip kit (paint and clear coat), but it's the hardest part of the whole process.

Here's a (not very good) photo:

20120712_160302 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Apologies for the late reply! Its a very easy wax to put on definitely! You dont really need it to be honest if you already have a sealant as it will not last as long as your sealant. Looks wise you should get a tad more, maybe But looks great!

[VeeDub23]

Hey all.

I just got back from the panel beater after my other car was repaired(non vw). Was chatting to the guy about wax and polish. He swore by Mr Sheen as a replacement for wax!?! I have never ever heard of this before.

He said he's been using it on his show car as well as Harley for 20+ years!

Please, don't shoot the messenger!!

[carcareproducts]

Hey all.

I just got back from the panel beater after my other car was repaired(non vw). Was chatting to the guy about wax and polish. He swore by Mr Sheen as a replacement for wax!?! I have never ever heard of this before.

He said he's been using it on his show car as well as Harley for 20+ years!

Please, don't shoot the messenger!!

I wouldnt recommend it! Each to their own but makes you wonder why no detailer uses it? lol

Get something that'll last 6/7 months+ like duragloss, zaino, wolfs chemicals, nanolex etc.

[VeeDub23]

Yes, looking into those products!! Dropping hints left right and centre for fathers day!!

[VeeDub23]

Hey Guys

What are your thoughts on "waterless" car wash products??

(sorry, probably wrong forum)