Skoda Octavia Wagon or Golf Wagon

[K4neX]

Hello everyone, I am think of getting my wife either the Skoda Octavia Wagon in the Ambition Plus trim with tech pack or the Golf Wagon 90TSI Comfortline with bi-xeon headlights.

These two should be within $1000 of each other and would not want to spend more than that. So I would like to know if anyone has been through or going through the same process of trying to decide between the two?

I have test driven the Octavia in that exact trim and loved the engine and the equipment level, but feel a bit let down by not having reverse camera in today's market. And I think the interior to be very good especially the steering wheel.

I have not test driven the Golf as yet but for those who have driven both, do you think the 90TSI will be a bit behind the 103TSI in terms of going uphill and carrying load?

I know that the Octavia has a torsion beam in the rear and the golf has multi-link, I am currently driving Mazda 3 MPS with 18" wheels and sport suspension and I found that the Octavia was quite comfortable so I am not sure if the multi-link will wow me. But VW is more established in Australia and has a better re-sale value...

Anyway, looking forward to hear your opinion and why you pick one over the other, cheers!

[dArK5HaD0w]

The Octavia wagon has more boot space

[brad]

I thought they'd lifted the Golf boot space up near Octavia levels?

To the OP: You'll get a biased view posting in the Octy area

For a family runabout I doubt you'll notice the difference in the power outputs but is the torque similar as that is what gets you up hills without the gearbox dropping back a gear or two. Is the 103tsi the twincharge engine? If so, stay away as it's a lottery if you get a good one or not. 90tsi seem to get consistently good reports. Both are DSG7 so that's a shame.

Agree regarding the multi-link/beam comparison - unless you are driving fairly quick. I like to go fast around corners but I don't think the beam axle would be a show-stopper.

If your worried about brand name acceptance then walk away from Skoda right now because VW AUS will never let the brand florish. They consistantly make small tactical errors to ensure that sales will remain fairly stagnant. Resale is a different matter & apart from anecdoatl evidence I've yet to see somebody take a bigger bath on a Skoda than they would have on an equivalent VW.

I x-shopped Skoda & VW when I bought & when I did a comparison of features & inclusions the Octy crapped all over the equivalent Golf & was a few thousand cheaper. You might be surprised at what the Golf is missing if you do an item by item comparison of the spec sheets.

Pricing difference might be $1k on paper but in reality you'll probably get 5%-8% off RRP for the Octy if you can bargain. VW might be a bit more intractable.

You should be able to add an OEM RVC camera as an option & if you are handy it should be a DIY.

If it was a choice between MK2Octy & MK7 Golf I'd go with the Golf but the MK3 Octy ticks all the boxes for me so that would be my pick.

[NOO63N]

Your lucky day! Cheap one for sale in VIC in the for sale thread.

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[K4neX]

I thought they'd lifted the Golf boot space up near Octavia levels?

To the OP: You'll get a biased view posting in the Octy area

For a family runabout I doubt you'll notice the difference in the power outputs but is the torque similar as that is what gets you up hills without the gearbox dropping back a gear or two. Is the 103tsi the twincharge engine? If so, stay away as it's a lottery if you get a good one or not. 90tsi seem to get consistently good reports. Both are DSG7 so that's a shame.

Agree regarding the multi-link/beam comparison - unless you are driving fairly quick. I like to go fast around corners but I don't think the beam axle would be a show-stopper.

If your worried about brand name acceptance then walk away from Skoda right now because VW AUS will never let the brand florish. They consistantly make small tactical errors to ensure that sales will remain fairly stagnant. Resale is a different matter & apart from anecdoatl evidence I've yet to see somebody take a bigger bath on a Skoda than they would have on an equivalent VW.

I x-shopped Skoda & VW when I bought & when I did a comparison of features & inclusions the Octy crapped all over the equivalent Golf & was a few thousand cheaper. You might be surprised at what the Golf is missing if you do an item by item comparison of the spec sheets.

Pricing difference might be $1k on paper but in reality you'll probably get 5%-8% off RRP for the Octy if you can bargain. VW might be a bit more intractable.

You should be able to add an OEM RVC camera as an option & if you are handy it should be a DIY.

If it was a choice between MK2Octy & MK7 Golf I'd go with the Golf but the MK3 Octy ticks all the boxes for me so that would be my pick.

Cheer Brad. The Octy 103TSI is the same engine as that in the golf 103TSI Highline, just turbo charged.

I know i will get biased opinion here, that's why I have posted the same question in the Golf page

It will be my wife's car so I doubt she'll go around corner really fast haha.

The MK3 Octy does have a very comprehensive of features, like reversible boot mat and those corner pieces with velcro, how clever. And it might sound strange, I prefer the layout of the air vents in the Octy haha.

[brad]

Your lucky day! Cheap one for sale in VIC in the for sale thread.

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DSG = not for me

[NOO63N]

DSG = not for me

Haha! I'm so mixed with it. I love my manual at the moment but on those really tired afternoons or evenings sitting in traffic I sit and wonder...how nice a DSG would be. It doesn't happen often but when it does I just sigh and ponder...hahaha

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[GTR27]

I dont think there are any manuals in australia are there? I havent seen any, and dealers dont seem to be sharing stock. If There was a manual ambition+ wagon in oz, i'd buy it now!

Damn skoda and their stupid long wait times...

[dArK5HaD0w]

I thought they'd lifted the Golf boot space up near Octavia levels?

ur right, vw did up the game on the mk7 golf wagon. my mk2 liftback even had more space than the previous mk6 wagon!!!

mk7 golf wagon = 602L / 1620L
mk3 octavia wagon = 588L / 1718L

mk6 golf wagon = 505L / 1495L
mk2 octavia wagon = 580L / 1620L

[brad]

Really annoying that the points of difference between the 2 marques are being eroded away.

[Terryible]

I'm almost in the same boat, i'm very keen on the Ambition plus, wife is unsure due to the 5 month wait, as ideally we need a new car within 3 months

[woofy]

The Golf wagon was obviously a very intentional move to steal the sales that the Octy wagons were taking in the UK and Euro. It was a while back but I clearly remember the VW chairman getting annoyed that the Skodas were stealing all the sale and vowed to tone down the goodies Skodas had inbuilt. I'm honestly surprised they have as much good things this round as they do.

I don't know if it has any bearing, but I would take the Skoda simply because the wagon has been around for a long time compared to the Golf Wagon. It probably has no real effect seeing as the Mk3 Octy is new, but it makes logical sense to me that the Skoda design team would have learnt more lessons than the Golf team which this would be relatively new for. With the incestuous nature, it's probably complete crap what I just wrote, but I do know the Czech teams try to outdo the parent company.

[brad]

golf wagons & Golf+ (like a pregnant Golf) aren't that new an idea are they?

I think there was a Mk3 wagon, etc. We just never saw them here.

[K4neX]

I'm almost in the same boat, i'm very keen on the Ambition plus, wife is unsure due to the 5 month wait, as ideally we need a new car within 3 months

To be honest, If I had to wait have 5 months I would, I mean during this time, I could save up a bit more and reduce the loan. Also, I think this 5 month wait is well compensated for the price and level of equipment that we are getting.

Besides, last time I talked to a dealer, he said if I am flexible on colour and only need the Ambition Plus with Tech Pack (which is apparently the most popular combo), there may already have one somewhere in Australia and can be had in 2 weeks to one month.

The more I think about it, the more I would lean towards to the Octavia, mainly is the price, equipment and it's satifactory rating in the UK. But also the design... Some people said it is bland but I found it to be classy and timeless, the angry / squinting headlights on the golf would go out of fashion pretty quickly. And it's also the over shape of the car, whether it is the wagon or the hatch Octavia you are looking at, it makes me feel more tha tthe car is meant to be in that form / shape, whereas the golf is like they just put more metal panel on each side to make it longer so that it will have enough internal space to make it a wagon.

[Mysticality]

To avoid any confusion; the Twincharged 1.4ltr engine is not being put in new model vehicles.

The Golf comes with 90TSI (1.4T) and 103TSI (1.4T); the Octavia comes with 103TSI (1.4T) and 132TSI (1.8T).
All of the 1.4T engines are the same, just with different software.
They all come with the DQ200 7-speed dry clutch DSG which has a torque limit of 250Nm. As such, the 1.4T and 1.8T all have a torque limit of 250Nm.

Is your wife wanting a manual, or a DSG?


EDIT: Sorry, 90TSI (1.4T) Golf only has 200Nm