Bluefined my 2012 VRS Octy

[MountainBikeMike]

Anyone know what the cost is to reset the bluefin to ready it for on-sale? And what it would sell for? I also had paid an extra $150 for stage 2 and onwards, does this mean the unit will always come with stage 2 in requested for the new buyer?

[brad]

Best you send all your questions to Superchips. When I've dealt with them previously they were reasonably fast in replying.

I think the easisest way is to advertise it un-reset with a copy of the reset price email from Superchips. Then again, I've never seen anyone sell the St2 before.

[dportaz]

Hey guys,

Keen to hear opinions on guys with the bluefin with DSG...

Im on stage 2 and obviously there is a lot more power, but after putting it back to stock tune last night (taken it into Skoda this morning to check on the DSG) I noticed that the tune may be causing a few issues for some reason. Here is what I notice:

Bluefin tune:
- Idle 50% of the time is a bit rough
- Shudders when I lift off the brake pedal (could be issue with clutch packs)
- Shudders just before I come to stop
- D mode shifting has a mind of its own. Under the same load/acceleration, sometimes it holds the gears when accelerating, and other times it shifts waaayyy to early...

Stock tune:
- Idle seems smoother
- Shudder is significantly less when lifting the brake pedal
- Only very light shudder just before coming to a stop
- D mode gear shifting is definitely smoother and changes how it should, making it much better to drive but obviously no where near the power of stage 2

If I drive in M mode then only thing I have to put up with is the shuddering which is still bad (why I have taken it into Skoda this morning)..

I am seriously thinking about getting a refund on the bluefin and changing tune...

Let me know your thoughts...

Daniel

[brad]

I have no knowledge of the effect of a Bluefin on the DSG.

I think Bluefin do great, budget priced, stage 1 generic/mail-order self-loading tunes but beyond that the tune needs to be a bit more tailored - this applies to all the tuners IMO.

Interesting observations about the idle. I'll have to put mine back to stock & see if it makes any difference.

[zei20t]

The ECU sends torque information to the transmission, so it knows how much pressure to put on the clutches.

After the stage 2, I get a slight delay when stomping on the fast pedal if its under 3k. I see the revs rise a little, but then it catches up.

that said, the car performed VERY well on the track last week. no issues, except I think I may need a heavier oil as temps were hitting mid 130s and I was worried it would be too thin at that temperature.

[Antiplastix]

I get the rough idle with the Bluefin tune too (not enough to worry me), and mines a manual.

[brad]

What oil are you using?

[zei20t]

whatever the workshop put in. I guess its 5w-30. im thinking perhaps 5w-40 might be better for the track.

[Martin]

Bluefin tune:
- Idle 50% of the time is a bit rough
- Shudders when I lift off the brake pedal (could be issue with clutch packs)
- Shudders just before I come to stop
- D mode shifting has a mind of its own. Under the same load/acceleration, sometimes it holds the gears when accelerating, and other times it shifts waaayyy to early...

Stock tune:
- Idle seems smoother
- Shudder is significantly less when lifting the brake pedal
- Only very light shudder just before coming to a stop
- D mode gear shifting is definitely smoother and changes how it should, making it much better to drive but obviously no where near the power of stage 2

D mode is fuzzy logic and does surprise me once a week

The shudder when coming to a stop is just a down change
It's just that you didn't ask for the down change and weren't aware or expecting it

[dportaz]

D mode is fuzzy logic and does surprise me once a week

The shudder when coming to a stop is just a down change
It's just that you didn't ask for the down change and weren't aware or expecting it

If it was once a week I would be fine it - its a daily thing.. take off and its fine, next time a take off its spastic.... next time spastic, next time fine... Etc...

The shudder coming to a stop is definitely not from just the down change into 1st... Lets say im in manual mode and ive changed it down to 1st... the shudder happens even after that...

[brad]

whatever the workshop put in. I guess its 5w-30. im thinking perhaps 5w-40 might be better for the track.

GLlubricants Mobil1 0w-40 502.00 spec

Someone mentioned recently they dropped about 10 deg of temp by changing oil brands (not viscosity). I can't for the life of me remeber the detail - may have been Fuchs or Motul or the other "fancy Euro brand" that folks are onto.

[Lucas_R]

Anyone know what the cost is to reset the bluefin to ready it for on-sale? And what it would sell for? I also had paid an extra $150 for stage 2 and onwards, does this mean the unit will always come with stage 2 in requested for the new buyer?

Put your car back to the stock tune, reset the Bluefin unit via discussion with Superchips in the UK (a special screen comes up on your computer to reset it) and then you sell the unit as a reset unit. The new owner then can get a stage 1 tune at no cost.

I sold my old Bluefin unit to zei20t (who has posted above, now using it on his Octavia) and that was the process i did to reset mine before selling it.

Generally you get around $500-550 for a reset unit. They sell for under $700 brand new these days, so you cant expect much more than $500-550 for a second hand unit.

Doesnt matter if you are stage 1,2 or 3 - once you reset the Bluefin you have lost what ever stage you were at. The buyer starts from stage 1 and will have to pay for stage 2 or 3 just like you did.

[NOO63N]

Yeah I think the price of the reset units are going down, I purchased mine last week for $225 pick up, could have just been lucky though!

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[Lucas_R]

^ very lucky - have never seen one that cheap before. I think about $400 (for a quick sale) is the cheapest ive seen.

[jrobbo]

Hey guys,

I'm John from Tigersoft Performance in Melbourne, and a Superchips dealer. If anyone has any problems or questions about Bluefin or the tune, please feel free to contact me and I will do my best to answer.

1) I'm dealing with Superchips in the UK now to find a resolution to the problems that dportaz reported.
2) NOO63N you picked up a bargain, well done!When you buy a second hand Bluefin, you are paying for the tune, not the handset. Buying a new tune for $225 is awesome.
3) Superchips ANZ charge $150 to reset a Bluefin less than 1 year old, and $400 to reset a Bluefin older than 1 year old.
4) Lucas_R is correct, once the Bluefin is reset it is completely reset, and the new owner will start with Stage 1.

Anyway, if anyone needs any help, give me a yell!

Cheers

John