Skoda RS replacement tyres - interesting

[li21]

But of a thread revival after 4 years.. But didn't want to start a new thread. Wanted to ask what people though of Pirelli P1 for an RS?


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[Martin]

Pirelli have somewhat lost their way, they are generally not great on cost or performance

The P1 is nothing to write home about - it's safe and provides nice comfort
If you are prone to enthusiastic driving this tyre is unlikely to impress

Given the aggressive pricing of Michelin PS3 and Goodyear F1A2 it's hard to look at the rest

[GTR27]

Martin is bang on. Goodyear F1A2, Michelin ps3 or continental cs5 or above are the tyres to buy. Pirelli doesn't even get a mention

[brad]

But of a thread revival after 4 years.. But didn't want to start a new thread. Wanted to ask what people though of Pirelli P1 for an RS?


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I have a dislike of Pirelli bordering on pathological. I don't like the way all their tyres have the same name but do different things. I don't like the huge difference in performance / noise / etc between when they are new & when they are >50% worn.

For the money you can get a lot less of a lucky dip.

I assume they are mega-cheap at the mopment because Tempe won't even put a price on their site. Expect to pay $200-$250 for Michelin / Goodyear / Bridgestone (I'm not a fan of Dunlop either).

The Pirellis would have to be <$150 to make me take a punt on them. Lets face it, you have to live with them for 2-3 years. Make a mistake & your reminded what a tight-arse you are everytime you drive (generic "you" - not you personally)

[li21]

Wow thats completely different from what the tyre stores told me

Seems every store tried to sell me P1 based on excellent performance, with comfort, quietness, fuel economy benefits and long wear life.
Seemed too good to be true? like a dream all round tyre.

Are they really that far off the mark?

Out of the above suggestions, is there any tyre that gives the above P1 claims? (great grip, comfort, quiet and long wearing?)
Whats the best price around for the Mich Ps3s?

thanks

[GTR27]

You can get them for sub 200 and they **** all over pirellis. Wear nicely and are quiet for most their life

[brad]

You've answered your own question & your question has already been answered.


The guys in the tyre shop can only go by the marketing that is fed to them as it's very rare that they get an opportuity to actually sample a tyre & see how it goes - rarely do they get a chance to test real world longevity.

Personally, I used to sell the tyre that sucked the least & gave me the biggest profit margin without pushing the price beyond what the customer could afford. What else can you do when Head Office sends you 100 Eastern Block mud & snow tyres to sell during a Sydney Summer? All you can do is sell them to all the tight-arse ute & taxi drivers & ring around all the trailer & caravan places hoping to palm them off without killing someone.

[li21]

Thanks, Where can you get sub $200 for PS3? Even Tempe is$239


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[GTR27]

Try 235 rather than 225 it's a more common size

Edit: and thus cheaper

[li21]

Try 235 rather than 225 it's a more common size

Edit: and thus cheaper

I see
What are the downsides if going down the wider tyre path ?

[GTR27]

Slightly more roll. That's about it. I'm on phone ATM, so not easy, but you can Google the exact size replacement, or one of the guys with tyre experience might be able to tell you.

I think stock is 225/40/18 and you can use 235/40/18 as a replacement. It will also make your speedo more accurate ( larger rolling diameter, but still legal)

[kaitan]

I personally think that investing in a good tyre is essential for safety and wallet sake. I personally would either go for Goodyear F1A2 or the michelin PSS. I had it on my bmw and the tyres are fantastic awesome grip and noise plus the thread wear rating is 300! I never liked Pirelli simply because I just dont hear much about them in tyre reviews and amongst enthusiast!

I would stick to michelin,goodyear,continental and maybe bridgstone in that particular order.

I find that performance for :
michelin tyres tend to be soft,grippy and quiet but pricey
Goodyear tyres tend to be good grip, quiet and value for money
Continental tyres tend to be slightly noisy and does not grip as much after it's been worn in after 5000km and Value for money
Bridgestone tyres tend to be harder compound, low thread rating and expensive

[brad]

235/40r18 are 8" rim minimum. So they are fine for pre-FL RS that came with 8" but I think FL are 7.5"?

So here's the dilema. Do you pay $60 extra for 225/40r18 or put the $60 towards some 18x8 rims?

michelin tyres tend to be softDisagree,grippy and quiet but pricey not any more - quite competitive,
Goodyear tyres tend to be good grip, quiet and value for money I think they are no better value than Michelin. Levels of grip vary badly depending where they are built; can tend to wear reallly quick (I once wore out a set of NCTs in 10,000km),
Continental tyres tend to be slightly noisy and does not grip as much after it's been worn in after 5000km and Value for money
Bridgestone tyres tend to be harder compound, low thread rating and expensive How can they be a harder compund & (I assume you mean) Low treadwear rating? Bridgestone have come down in price now too. Amazing what a bit of competition does,

[GTR27]

Odd, I've heard numerous people say a 235 is still OK on the 7.5" rim tire size calculator . com

Shows that it's OK..... Not sure who to believe. A mate did it on his Mondeo, no issues he can tell

Edit: I know the Mondeo is 8" rims, but lots of places say 235 on 7.5 is OK.... Hmmmm

[woofy]

The wheel sizes on the preFL are the same Brad. Most honest tyre places and Michelin themselves when I asked said not to put that size on. It's too baggy, I don't know why people do it, I know tyre places will do anything to make a buck but to risk a tyre coming off seems tightass when it's a car and people's lives at stake.