Skoda RS replacement tyres - interesting

[li21]

Know what you guys saying about the Pirelli Cinturato P1..
But I found them at $169 a corner.. seems too good to resist..

But thinking, if I'm only going to do this once, might as well go the PS3 but at nearly $100 a corner more . hmmm..

[brad]

Odd, I've heard numerous people say a 235 is still OK on the 7.5" rim tire size calculator . com

Shows that it's OK..... Not sure who to believe. A mate did it on his Mondeo, no issues he can tell

Edit: I know the Mondeo is 8" rims, but lots of places say 235 on 7.5 is OK.... Hmmmm

It would depend on the brand of tyre. You've linked to a generic compatabilty calculator. I'd double check with the Michelin techos because databases are wrong all the time but for a 235/40r18 PS3 the rim range appears to be 8-9.5.
Michelin*Pilot Sport 3

Other brands in the same size might allow a 7.5" fitment. It depends on what case they are using. At Goodyear, the 215/70r14 was made from the same case as a 205/70r14 with more rubber on it. 215/70r14 was low volume size so it saved some money and they could sneak in a small production run without doing heaps of tooling changes. When built it was right at the minimum dimensions for that size. The equivalent Bridgestone was noticeably bigger.

Yokohama were always a small case too and a lot of their tyres were factory approved for a smaller width rim.

A good tyre place will know which brands have a small case & will fit IAW the manufacturers recomendations.

edit: I'm not saying don't do it but I think people should know all the facts before making a decision.

[brad]

Know what you guys saying about the Pirelli Cinturato P1..
But I found them at $169 a corner.. seems too good to resist..

But thinking, if I'm only going to do this once, might as well go the PS3 but at nearly $100 a corner more . hmmm..

235-170 = $65 but I see your point. Give them a try & prove the critics wrong

edit: How much are they at Tempe Tyres?

[GTR27]

Agreed. In not a tyre fitter, so asking questions I'd always a good thing. Ask enough people and you will be able to gauge what the general consensus is

[li21]

Skoda RS replacement tyres - interesting

235-170 = $65 but I see your point. Give them a try & prove the critics wrong

edit: How much are they at Tempe Tyres?

At Tempe - 235 for the PS3, but I didn't ask about the p1.


At Jax they do the PS3 for 269 and p1 for 169.

Jax didn't want to fit 235s as a substitute

Tempe I heard are a bit iffy to deal with but prices are great. But a pain for me to drive to.

Every hour I'm thinking just spend the extra and be done with it, and every other hour I'm thinking.. Why do I need the extra performance if 95% of the time I'm just driving to and from work and school .. I'll get more Kms from the p1s too.


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[brad]

Tempe I heard are a bit iffy to deal with but prices are great. But a pain for me to drive to.

.. I'll get more Kms from the p1s too.

Tempe are great to deal with. They used to be a pack of dodgeys but that was >10years back. You don't keep 7 fitting bays busy 10hrs/day, 7 days a week being dodgey.
I have really high standards when it comes to service, politeness, respect & honesty & I have no issues sending my Sister or other family members there without me holding their hand. I'm not a habibi either.

In theory you might get more km (TWR 420 Vs TWR380) but in reality it will be about the same. The Michelin leans towards high performance, the Pirelli leans towards touring.

Give Tempe a ring. I bet they are around $150 for 225/40r18.

[Martin]

I'll get more Kms from the p1s too.

I seriously doubt that
Here are the review results from the TyreReview web site
The wear rating is very poor over a relatively low number of km



This is the same data for the Goodyear F1A2 - look at the km's



The rear tyres don't wear much on the Octavia RS
Projecting my current wear rate on the front tyres,
looks like my Goodyear F1A2 are headed for ~50k
(I have huge brakes and generally use the power/cornering often)

Goodyear F1A2 $195 per wheel at the International Tyre Trader
GOODYEAR 225/40R18 92Y F1 ASYMMETRIC 2

Also available at Taleb Tyres Tempe for $199 each
225 40 18 2254018 92Y Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 Tyres Free Fitting Balance | eBay

[woofy]

Yeah I wouldn't use that logic at all, I've had many counterparts get pushed into the Pirelli versions of what I told them to get and be very disappointed, uneven and high wear usually the main gripe. My OEM Michelins are still going at 60k, I was astounded when a friend with a higher km RS told me how long his lasted as he always burns through tyres with his spirited driving and living on the side of a mountain.

Ours are just starting to look worn on the shoulders now, but still plenty of tread depth left.

[li21]

Thanks Martin.
I've settled for the PS3 at Jax. Figured if I'm gonna be stuck with them for 2-3 years might as well goo with one of the recommended here.

Just wonder if the extra "performance" means anything to a driver like myself


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[Martin]

Well, if you don't use the performance they will last even longer, you also have a huge safety margin

I have several friends who have had unfortunate accidents where conditions and tyre traction were factors
It's nice to factor that out (especially if it's a family car)

To be honest, I am surprised with the durability of the PS3 and F1A2
I have never before had a tyre with both high performance and good durability

The PS3 is more comfortable on a daily grind basis than the F1A2

[spud75]

I seriously doubt that

The rear tyres don't wear much on the Octavia RS
Projecting my current wear rate on the front tyres,

Interesting, as my diesel is wearing faster on the front than I would have suspected at 13000km.

I am running 36psi at the front, on conti's. They are wearing fairly evenly, but a tad more on the shoulders. With a heavy diesel engine over the wheels, I am not surprised at the wear difference, just surprised at the high rate at the front. I dont think I will get past 25000km.

In comparison, the A3 tdi still on its first set of tyres (Michellin Primacy) at 65,000km. I reckon I can get another 10000 out them too.

[Martin]

The 2.0L TDI and TSI Octavia wagons are within 20kg - so weight is not an issue

Frequently going around roundabouts is something that hammers the outside shoulder
You can move the left tyre to the right wheel making the outside edge the inside edge to get a bit more life out of the tyres

My car came with CS2's - they were down by 50% at 16k, so yes, it appears they give less km than other options
The TyreReview web site shows the CS2 and CS5 are typically rated very low for wear

[brad]

I got 46,000km out of the OEM CSC2 205/55r16 down to 2mm (that's my minimum. Wear bars are 1.5mm)

Khumo KU31 235/45r17would have worked out at 20,000km as I got them with 5mm & it took 10,000km to get them to 2mm.

Michelin Primacy HP 225/55r16 gave me 70,000km and they were more like 2.5mm remaining. New owner intends running them for a while. They are very much a touring tyre though.

Currently Bridgestone RE050A 225/50r17 have 18,000km on them and are almost half down so proably good for 40,000km. Grip levels of these things are noticeably higher than any of the previous tyres I've had on the car.

[Martin]

I have a lot of respect for the RE050 - very good tyre (but needs to be warmed up in the wet)
Unfortunately the typical pricing of this tyre have been a problem for me

[brad]

I have a lot of respect for the RE050 - very good tyre (but needs to be warmed up in the wet)
Unfortunately the typical pricing of this tyre have been a problem for me

Yep. Bit overpriced in the past - $300-$500. They're a bit more competitive now they are becoming a somewhat old pattern.

I didn't pay full freight. $400 with Audi rims. They had 7mm tread remaining.

Michelin with Audi rims were similar money as were the Khumos but they had BBS lightweight rims. I sell the rims when the tyres a bald so the last 100k of tyres has cost me about $700 net