Group Buy / EOI new generation DNS head units (RNS-510 alternative)

[moda]

Thanks for the update Sandy. RE your PM, i'll have to mull it over and try and decide what's best. I've got a deadline (end of November), before I leave for work down south, so i'll need it by then.

Anyways, a couple of quick questions:

1) Has the hardware been finalised? IE, if I decide to go in for the prerelease version, there will be *no* difference in hardware compared to the final mass production run, correct?

2) is iPod functionality complete? That's really the only important thing for me, I don't listen to anything on a USB/SD (although that may change if you say it now supports lossless codecs? That's mighty impressive!) or the Radio, only via iPod/iPhone.

3) RE the question from a few days ago, you say the unit is A2DP, not AVRCP, is that something that can be changed in software, or a function of the bluetooth module? My understanding is AVRCP is a subset of the A2DP profile, but i'm not sure if it's hardware or not.

Thanks

[Tobes_WIR35]

Hi Sandy,

I appreciate what you're saying about the retention idea not working in this scenario. I get what you're saying, but it's all about leverage. If the customer has a retention, they have some leverage with the manufacturer to make sure they deliver what they say they'll deliver. If they pay in full, then there is no incentive for the manufacturer to finish the job.
That being said, I'm happy to get the unit early as long as there's a guarantee from them that the bugs will be fixed in a timely manner.
I think they at least owe us that much.

[MountainBikeMike]

Hey everyone.

Just hoping someone with an ANS could swing me the right way between the ANS and DNS, as Im not sure wether It would be worth my while saving $150 and putting that to use elsewhere on the car. And Sandy, if you could give me your opinion to:

-In terms of snappiness and lag, I see in the videos that the loading times are faster on the DNS, but both are reasonable. Choosing songs is a few milliseconds slower.. Is this likely to worsen at all as the ANS ages?
-Im driving an Octavia RS pre-facelift (2008 ) and this is the dash:


Just wanted to make sure the standard ANS/DNS-810 model fits this shape

-With this model I'm not sure if I can make the OBD functions work, sorry I'm not very good understanding this function... I don't need climate control on the screen but it would be nice to have all that engine info such as temps, boost, volts, yadda yadda. Could you please repeat briefly what the ANS can do as I'm finding it hard to bring up.
-With either of these units, will the music volume dim when reversing?
-The better anti-glare looks pretty good on the DNS. Is the ANS unit's glare better at least than $400 chinese crap??
-In terms of simply music playing and gps, Will I see a drastic difference in the experience for the extra $150

[NewGuy]

Yes it looks like it will be, I mentioned this a few weeks ago. I'm sorry this is how it turned out, at the time no mention was made to me that mirroring was going to require an additional module. There is very little I can do - you are of course free to cancel your order if it's a deal-breaker for you, though the group buy price right now is $100 off retail (and then some, with the current AUD to USD rate).

I have sent a PM to all those with a confirmed order regarding the dates for the first batch of units vs final release.

Hi mate,

I PM'd you in regards to this and still have not received a replay? I would like to get in before the group buy closes. I would be willing to take the unit with bugs as long as it's fixed eventually.

[fmflex]

There's been no concrete information on Android mirroring in its originally intended form (i.e. with full controls via the DNS unit). I am a bit reluctant to give unconfirmed information at this stage for reasons I think you would be able to appreciate, but for the sake of giving people an update, the latest news I have is this: they will first release a module that works for both Android and iPhones, BUT it will not have the ability to be controlled via the DNS i.e. video mirroring only. The original solution which they are having trouble with works with Android only but can be controlled via the DNS.

Hi Sandy

Do you have any more information on the original solution mentioned here? Will they be continuing with it? I don't know an iphone or anything Apple and if the original solutions works reasonably well I'd be more inclined to take that option.

[kwalsh24]

well, it's not that, its the bezzel that goes around the radio and climate controls, the metal snaps have all just about broken off of their plastic melted holders due to being taken apart a few times now, they've since been glued however don't want to risk having one break off and losing it in the dash someplace lol. I have a problem with getting bored with radios haha, this will be my 3rd radio in 3 years of owning the car . well technically the 4th if you count the new in ans radio that's sitting on my floor at home. I just miss the USB playback as listening to the radio here can get rather repetitive, plus no GPS... yeah... what can I say

If I remember correctly, you drive a Golf 5? You could put the trim pieces back without any of the screws. This more than halves the time required to take it apart later. If you've done it as many times as I have, without screws everything would be off in less than two minutes.

[matiasg85]

Just PMed you to join again.

Thanks.

[raymondtrudeau]

Since the android mirroring won't be like they promised,can you talk to audiosources and tell them the unit should be $100 cheaper?because we are not getting what was promised . ..
The value of the unit is not the same as first valued
If you were buying a car for say $25000
And it came with power seats,windows, and air conditioning ...then when you were ready to pay they say "ohh the car doesn't come with air conditioning sorry"
The price of the car would be much less..

[dabeechman]

Since the android mirroring won't be like they promised,can you talk to audiosources and tell them the unit should be $100 cheaper?because we are not getting what was promised . ..
The value of the unit is not the same as first valued
If you were buying a car for say $25000
And it came with power seats,windows, and air conditioning ...then when you were ready to pay they say "ohh the car doesn't come with air conditioning sorry"
The price of the car would be much less..

I wouldn't say 100, but it should be deducted from whatever the true cost of the module should be.

Another option is for the group buy individuals to receive a voucher to receive the module either free, or at a reduced cost for those who want it when it is released. This is a feature that I think we ALL want, so not only removing it from the initial build specs, but to then CHARGE us for it really has left a bad taste in my mouth.

[kwalsh24]

even tho I badly want the unit, I have to agree with what people are saying about the android mirrioring. that's like buying something in eBay and only getting half of what's described in the auction

[pwc123]

even tho I badly want the unit, I have to agree with what people are saying about the android mirrioring. that's like buying something in eBay and only getting half of what's described in the auction

Yep, I'm out. Too many question marks for the only feature I am interested in. Asked Sandy for a refund this morning. Best of luck to the rest of you all! I'll be keeping an eye on this thread...

[kwalsh24]

Well, for me what grabbed my eyes with this radio was the style screen it used. that was a selling factor ontop of everything else, if I did research and found another company selling a radio that offered similar features as what this radio claims to provide I might look into it if I don't get this unit by my road trip date.

Yep, I'm out. Too many question marks for the only feature I am interested in. Asked Sandy for a refund this morning. Best of luck to the rest of you all! I'll be keeping an eye on this thread...

[chocolatemoose]

still waiting to hear about us touareg owners.

[Transporter]

still waiting to hear about us touareg owners.

What year is your Touareg?

[master phi]

Just a quick question. Will there be a usb plug to plug in a wifi dongle or 3G dongle for internet so that we get live traffic feed data? I was planning on using the android mirror function to just be the internet for that, but if I can plug in a 3G dongle it will be similar I guess.