Dumping the DSG?

[Ryeman]

"......for smoother and more RELIABLE transmissions "
Audi shifts away from dual clutch transmissions

[Ozsko]

The DSG would be so good with a torque converter in front of it.

[Ryeman]

The DSG would be so good with a torque converter in front of it.

I guess then it becomes just another, albeit 8-10 Spd auto, by another means.
Journalists will complain about 'hunting' all the time......there'll be a gear for every slope and we will rarely, if ever, see top (10th)

[Ryeman]

The CVT is starting to make sense.......blame the CARB

[Martin]

I would have a ZF auto over a CVT any day of the week

Personally I love my DSG - it's older 6 speed and has been awesome

I do have a friend with a 2 year old S4 which has had the DSG replaced under warranty

[Ozsko]

The DSG with a converter will be just that and not a conventional auto. It is the gear train and pre-selection of gears that makes the DSG a winner in the speed stakes. A low stall lock up converter that stays locked up would seem to make sense these days with good electronic management. I have a seven year old six speed DSG that has done a LOT of towing and has given no problems except taking off is not smooth. I think that could be solved if some throttle input was mapped out of it but it is what it is and I live with it.

[tigger73]

Yeah they've upped the power/torque and now the standard DSG boxes aren't up to spec.

[Greg Roles]

- plus lets face it, the DSG hasn't exactly been a profit / PR leader for VW, the ugly old auto will give far less hassles.

I'd be happy with a modern auto personally.

[Sunny43.5]

Never been a fan of VW's supposed class leading auto technology , those dummies in VW stumbled not only with the DSG but the Tiptronic wasn't much better . If they had asked more locals familiar with our climate and not their own team of testers who spent just a few weeks in the desert in Nevada , they would have realised the folly of their sealed for life stance and an internal filter sealed inside with a memo to dealers that they should not open the sump to replace the filter which will block with debris and also the fluid which gets burnt black through lack of a service schedule . Give me good old fashioned autos with simple mechanics anyday over this fragile s&*$t .

[Umai Naa!!]

I'd rather a 6-speed wet clutch DSG over an old VAG/Aisin conventional auto any day.

And besides, you can't put a torque converter on a manual transmission

[Umai Naa!!]

Never been a fan of VW's supposed class leading auto technology , those dummies in VW stumbled not only with the DSG but the Tiptronic wasn't much better . If they had asked more locals familiar with our climate and not their own team of testers who spent just a few weeks in the desert in Nevada , they would have realised the folly of their sealed for life stance and an internal filter sealed inside with a memo to dealers that they should not open the sump to replace the filter which will block with debris and also the fluid which gets burnt black through lack of a service schedule . Give me good old fashioned autos with simple mechanics anyday over this fragile s&*$t .

The Tiptronic is a conventional auto, and just like pretty much every other conventional auto, it has the filter in the sump. It's only called a Tiptronic, because of the shifter hanging off the centre dash panel.

[Ozsko]

And besides, you can't put a torque converter on a manual transmission

Who said you could? The DSG is in fact a pre-selector style of box, not a conventional two shaft manual.

[Umai Naa!!]

Who said you could? The DSG is in fact a pre-selector style of box, not a conventional two shaft manual.

By design, it's essentially a manual gearbox. It just has a box of smarts that operates the clutches and shifting for you.

[Ozsko]

By design, it's essentially a manual gearbox. It just has a box of smarts that operates the clutches and shifting for you.

It is nothing like a conventional manual box, where do people get these ideas?

[Umai Naa!!]

Probably the people who've pulled them apart and seen inside them.