Sneaky undercover action .

[Guest001]

Urban miffs all of it.

Well would be a MYTH but its true They do use unmarked cars and in our area have used a plain grey Aurion for a while then a green one and other assorted types. Should be more of it.

[Guest001]

The one on the Bruce Highway between Beerwah and the Caloundra turnoff has an allowance to compensate for car speedo errors I travel that one regular as well and I set the cruise for around 114 by the car speedo and never get pinged . The posted 110 does keep the traffic in check but you do see some idiots who don,t realise and I am sure they get a fine . Oh my GPS does seem to be more accurate as it shows 110 so I probably don't stray over anyway .

Why should it have a tolerance for speedo error. If you are going by your speedo you would NEVER get a ticket because by law speedos must read at least actual speed or up to 10kph higher +/-4. They may not read less than actual speed.

Therefore you would not be faster than the time it takes to do it at the speed limit.

If you choose to set your cruise higher well its up to you.

[stefcio007]

Saw many mobile speed cameras around my neighbourhood, very unusual and got caught. I finished work earlier than usual so totally forgot there might be cameras at that time, especially NYE.
12AM+ every other time of the year there is nobody on the road so have no problems coming back as they're not out at that time and so drive to conditions.

They also changed the law...
Victoria Police launch hidden mobile speed traps

[Tobes_WIR35]

They do use unmarked cars and in our area have used a plain grey Aurion for a while then a green one and other assorted types. Should be more of it.

I think they need a combination of marked and unmarked cars driving around in traffic. Speed cameras and cops with radars hiding behind bushes do little to prevent serious accidents. People drive like knob heads regardless.

On the other side of the coin, whenever I'm in traffic and on the extremely rare times where there is a marked highway patrol car amongst the pack (instead of hiding in the bushes with a radar), everyone behaves themselves.

That being said, I don't have sympathy for anyone caught speeding regardless of the means in which they are caught. Even if you are speeding and are an alert and observant driver you should, generally speaking, be able to spot a speed camera van or a radar trap and slow down in time anyway, and by default if you are alert and responsive enough to do this, then being a few kays over the limit is no safety issue. On theother hand if you are speeding and you'renot alert and responsive enough to see and slow down at a speed trap, then your driving as a whole probably IS a safety issue and you deserve the ticket.

I've had 3 or 4 in my driving career and the above applies to me as much as anyone else.

[stefcio007]

Fair point.

They really occasionally park a marked patrol car in the School Zone where I drop my siblings off. Everyone drives accordingly. Every other time I get overtaken because if a cop didn't see it then it didn't happen so people do whatever they want.

I wonder if they'll ever fit permanent speed cameras in School Zones, or would it be too complicated with the timing and all since everyone's clock isn't exactly synced? Think ticket disputes because the time was different. I guess the data for accidents occurring in School Zones isn't significant enough to warrant it.


On another note, local council installed 50km/h signs in winter where I live, now that it's summer and the trees have grown, all the signs are covered by leaves...

[Tobes_WIR35]

In a lot of school zones here they have flashing lights around the "40kmh" signs that operate whenever the 40 limit applies, so it would be quite simple to sync the flashing lights with the camera.

Maybe the cost benefit analysis does not stack up. Camera is only operational for a few hours a day, 5 days a week, 40 weeks a year. Doesn't make enough money to warrant installation... yes maybe I'm being a touch too cynical!

I do my best to stay off the road around school drop off and pick up times. I don't know what it is but parents seems to lose all common sense when it comes to dropping off or picking up their precious little Johnny/Jane. It becomes every man/woman (usually woman) for themselves.

[JustCruisn]

Can you really put a price on safety. Won't somebody please think of the children.

Why is it that Govt see a need to see a monetary return on everything ? We wont fine enough people so we wont do it.
Once the camera work and people slow down, the money dries up - then what.
Bring in autonomous cars and no more speeding revenue at all.

[Idle]

Can you really put a price on safety. Won't somebody please think of the children.

Why is it that Govt see a need to see a monetary return on everything ? We wont fine enough people so we wont do it.
Once the camera work and people slow down, the money dries up - then what.
Bring in autonomous cars and no more speeding revenue at all.

Like love in the song, Gov'ts will find a way...

[stefcio007]

Like love in the song, Gov'ts will find a way...

The school crossing will now have a toll to pay for the cameras and also insure a continuing revenue stream, put a coin in to activate the lights.
/sarcasm

[Sunny43.5]

Okay to clarify this one a friend of mine lives next to the guy whose company have been supplying several of the different speed cameras used by Qld police . He explained that the different cameras have an allowance for different uses , the fixed ones have the lowest allowance as it is not affected by movement of the camera . The mobile and hand held have a higher allowance as the movement of the camera by the operator means that they cannot get an accurate reading . Now Qld police have in the last year changed the allowance but will not publish those margins BUT they do have some tolerance regardless .You can read this article it gives a good insight into ADR versus the Law .Inaccurate Speedos in Court

Why should it have a tolerance for speedo error. If you are going by your speedo you would NEVER get a ticket because by law speedos must read at least actual speed or up to 10kph higher +/-4. They may not read less than actual speed.

Therefore you would not be faster than the time it takes to do it at the speed limit.

If you choose to set your cruise higher well its up to you.

[Tobes_WIR35]

Why should it have a tolerance for speedo error. If you are going by your speedo you would NEVER get a ticket because by law speedos must read at least actual speed or up to 10kph higher +/-4. They may not read less than actual speed.

Therefore you would not be faster than the time it takes to do it at the speed limit.

If you choose to set your cruise higher well its up to you.

This is not entirely true. Cars built prior to 2006 could be +/- 10%, so if your true speed is 100kph, the speedo could read anywhere from 90-110kph. Hence it would not be unreasonable to expect a 10% tolerance for speed cameras and radars, although I doubt this would hold up in court, maybe unless your car was older than 2006.

[RolfGolf]

My 2002 Golf reads under and always has ...

[Greg Roles]

Gee I'm glad I found this post, thanks for the info!

[stefcio007]

Went past the speed check that's on the M1 (I think?) way back to Melbourne when you're coming back to Geelong. Speedo said 105km/h. Camera said 100km/h.

[Idle]

Your luck was in!

If your speedo had been spot on, you'd likely have copped a ticket.