Volkswagen under investigation over illegal software that masks pollution

[feenix74]

Silly me, I forgot it's a woman we are dealing with! LOL

Yes . . . I love her and I married her because she is one of the most reasonable and logical ones I could find . . .

So she's looking to buy of a manufacturer with integrity? Let us know when she finds one, I think this may be difficult, they all seem to have skeletons in the closet, just that VAG's skeletons have been exposed most recently.

Cheers

George

Fully agree with you there. I come from a Toyota family and she comes from a Honda family. If our next car is not a VW then we will probably end up with a Toyota (the Lexus accelerator issues, IED airbags and other safety recalls have not register in my wife's sub-conscious yet) or a Hyundai

[Amalgam]

"she flatout says she does not trust VW - more the hubris and arrogance of senior management and their handling of the problems than any specific problem with the VW engineering. "


And in that one sentence lies the crystal clear crux of the VAG problem.

[VW Convert]

Yes . . . I love her and I married her because she is one of the most reasonable and logical ones I could find . . .

Female, reasonable and logical, that does not compute!

Fully agree with you there. I come from a Toyota family and she comes from a Honda family. If our next car is not a VW then we will probably end up with a Toyota (the Lexus accelerator issues, IED airbags and other safety recalls have not register in my wife's sub-conscious yet) or a Hyundai

So if corporate misbehaviour is a key element in the decision making process, we can come to the following conclusions:-

VW are out due to dieselgate.

Toyota are out due to denying there was an issue with the accelerator whilst concealing documents that proved the accelerator pedal assembly was defective. Fatalities involved.

Honda are out as they continued fitting Takata airbags for years knowing they were defective and there are still millions of unrectified vehicles around. Fatalities involved.

Ford are out as they knew of the issue with Pinto fuel tanks before the car went into production, they devised a fix but did not implement it because it would cost $11.00 per vehicle to implement. 27 Fatalities involved and just one of a number of Ford scandals.

Anything GM is out due to fact that they knew of the potentially life threatening ignition switch problem in the Chevy Cobalt and covered it up for years before rectifying it. 124 fatalities involved and just one of a number of GM scandals.

Hyundai is out due to the bribery scandal of 2006.

Mitsubishi is out due to the just revealed fuel consumption figures scandal.

Your choice is becoming severely limited, perhaps a Merc.............oh wait, weren't they fined $US 185 million back in 2010 for bribery?

I'm sure if you went digging, you could come up with dirt on pretty well any automotive manufacturer, none of them are as pure as the driven snow.

Cheers

George

[feenix74]

Female, reasonable and logical, that does not compute!

My wife tells me that she was a bit of a tomboy when she was young and she does not have many "girlfriends".

Also, my father-in-law is an retired Detective Sargeant and taught her to drive the way the police were taught to drive.

So if corporate misbehaviour is a key element in the decision making process, we can come to the following conclusions:-

VW are out due to dieselgate.

Toyota are out due to denying there was an issue with the accelerator whilst concealing documents that proved the accelerator pedal assembly was defective. Fatalities involved.

Honda are out as they continued fitting Takata airbags for years knowing they were defective and there are still millions of unrectified vehicles around. Fatalities involved.

Ford are out as they knew of the issue with Pinto fuel tanks before the car went into production, they devised a fix but did not implement it because it would cost $11.00 per vehicle to implement. 27 Fatalities involved and just one of a number of Ford scandals.

Anything GM is out due to fact that they knew of the potentially life threatening ignition switch problem in the Chevy Cobalt and covered it up for years before rectifying it. 124 fatalities involved and just one of a number of GM scandals.

Hyundai is out due to the bribery scandal of 2006.

Mitsubishi is out due to the just revealed fuel consumption figures scandal.

Your choice is becoming severely limited, perhaps a Merc.............oh wait, weren't they fined $US 185 million back in 2010 for bribery?

I'm sure if you went digging, you could come up with dirt on pretty well any automotive manufacturer, none of them are as pure as the driven snow.

Cheers

George

Tesla?

[VW Convert]

My wife tells me that she was a bit of a tomboy when she was young and she does not have many "girlfriends".

Also, my father-in-law is an retired Detective Sargeant and taught her to drive the way the police were taught to drive.





Tesla?

$$$$$$$?

[OilBurna]

Try Volvo I converted my wife from Mercedes and she hates VW as well. Built like a bank vault


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[Amalgam]

German car-makers forced to recall 630,000 dirty diesels – Car Reviews, News & Advice - CarPoint Australia

German car-makers forced to recall 630,000 dirty diesels

It’s been reported that that Mercedes-Benz’s emissions equipment stopped working below temperatures of 10C while GM’s European brand, Opel, after-treatment became inactive below temperatures of 17C.



According to engineering analysts, “switching off” a diesel engine’s emission tech not only improves an engine’s performance but also lengthens the time between servicing.

It’s not known if the recall will increase running costs by increasing the frequency of servicing for all models.

Another Article:

While no manufacturer other than VW had used cheating software to recognise when a car is being put through emissions testing, it found carmakers were making liberal use of something they call a “thermal window.”

That “thermal window,” Reuters explains, allows automakers to to dial back emissions control systems to prevent condensation buildup in the catalytic converter during low ambient temperatures. This ultimately prevents rust buildup and premature catalyst failure.

Multiple Automakers Used 'Thermal Window' Loophole To Circumvent European Emissions Regulations: Report

[Eaglen00b]

Yes . . . I love her and I married her because she is one of the most reasonable and logical ones I could find . . .



Fully agree with you there. I come from a Toyota family and she comes from a Honda family. If our next car is not a VW then we will probably end up with a Toyota (the Lexus accelerator issues, IED airbags and other safety recalls have not register in my wife's sub-conscious yet) or a Hyundai

Or ... *gasp* *shock* *horror* a KIA?

You gotta admit their 7 year bumper to bumper unlimited km warranty is definitely something to consider, not to mention if you look at their stats for recalls, which seem to be less when compared to other "mainstream" brands....

[feenix74]

Well Kia is now owned by Hyundai, so I assume like Skoda and SEAT does with VW, Kia raids the Hyundai parts bins. From what I can see on the road the Kia tend to be a bit sportier on their acceleration and handling. May have to get the wife a test drive . . .

Volvo . . . hmm . . . no.

[Ryeman]

KIA today can't really be compared to those of yesteryear in terms of perceived quality.
The reality will become apparent before much longer, but should be OK.
VW wouldn't have a bar of a 7 year warranty, that's for sure.

[Ryeman]

To me , it's 'horses for courses' - as in Asian cars for the pacific rim and European one's for Europeans if you're on a budget......otherwise have a $10K line of credit to cover 'issues'.
For Americans it's a case of home brand unless you're one of the 1%.

[Guest001]

I drove a Hyundai Tuscon in the USA in 2014 and found it undergeared a bit. IE doing 65MPH and wanting to pass somethiing it booted down two gears at least and revved out to 6000rpm (redline territory) Was a bit unerving actually.

In opposition also drove a Ford Kuga which went as well and didnt do the same If I was buying a vehicle like that would go for the KUGA.
Same size similar price.

Drove a Tiguan loaner here and found it gutless compared to the Passat

[arcadelt]

Volvo . . . hmm . . . no.

Don't be so quick - Volvo makes some very nice cars these days, especially the smaller sportier ones.

[arcadelt]

Drove a Tiguan loaner here and found it gutless compared to the Passat

Petrol or diesel?

[Ryeman]

The Tig is probably quite a bit heavier.