Queensland Speed Limit Review - Have your say

[Edhem]

Speed limit review - have your say (Department of Transport and Main Roads)

Im not sure if anyone else has seen this and made a topic. If so i will delete it.
Anyway, have you say in what you would like to be changed.

For me;
If your not overtaking, stick to the left.
Increase the speed limit on the M1 by 10.

[ill0gitech]

Hope you end up with increases, and not like what we ended up with in NSW - a (progressive) elimination of "confusing" odd-number starting speed limits - 70, 90. At this stage, 50 and 110 are safe...

[The_Hawk]

Was it the M2 that was "upgraded" from 110 to 100 after being redone?? (in NSW)

[hoi polloi]

Was it the M2 that was "upgraded" from 110 to 100 after being redone?? (in NSW)

Haven't been on the M2 since the upgrade - wouldn't surprise me though... I'd sounds like General Holmes Drive / Southern Cross Drive that went from 90 to 80 when the extra lane was addded. And the M7 (Sydney's one) seems too good a road to be only 100...

Good luck Queenslanders..



- Anthony

[Tobes_WIR35]

Great post. Will be putting in my 2 cents worth for sure.

I think suburban speed limits of 50 and 60 are appropriate. If anything, some more suburban and city streets could probably be 50 rather than 60.

I think the M1 between Tweed Heads to Caloundra should be 110 the whole way at least, with the addition of a fast lane where you must do at least 110 and less than 130, and only if you have an open licence and you're in a passenger vehicle.

I guess I could forego the fast lane for a compromise if all lanes were made 120km/h.

i'd also like to see greater police focus on the motorways of people speeding through road works, driving in the right hand lane continuously, people talking/texting on phones, and tailgating.

I miss driving in Europe. Courteous drivers who actually know how to drive, and road rules that don't treat everyone like they're retarded.

[team_v]

Great post. Will be putting in my 2 cents worth for sure.

I think suburban speed limits of 50 and 60 are appropriate. If anything, some more suburban and city streets could probably be 50 rather than 60.

I think the M1 between Tweed Heads to Caloundra should be 110 the whole way at least, with the addition of a fast lane where you must do at least 110 and less than 130, and only if you have an open licence and you're in a passenger vehicle.

I guess I could forego the fast lane for a compromise if all lanes were made 120km/h.

i'd also like to see greater police focus on the motorways of people speeding through road works, driving in the right hand lane continuously, people talking/texting on phones, and tailgating.

I miss driving in Europe. Courteous drivers who actually know how to drive, and road rules that don't treat everyone like they're retarded.

The road work idea is a bit of a sore point for me.
The amount of time i drive along and slow down only to have people whizzing past me or sitting right up my arse only to find there was no actual workers or road works at all (just forgot to remove the signs) is astounding.

The great ones are when you get slowed down to 40 so they can upgrade a footpath...

[Tobes_WIR35]

Yes, that's a fair point. Sometimes they go a bit overboard, but basically here in Australia we go so overboard with OH&S and signage and safety legislation that it's a bloody joke.

So I hear what you're saying, and I agree that they should review the requirements for where and when and by how much such speed reductions are implemented, however when they are warranted, people should stick to the speed limit for the safety of everyone. Every time I drive though road work zones, I drop my speed, and a flood of cars streams past me.

[sVWatt]

I miss driving in Europe. Courteous drivers who actually know how to drive, and road rules that don't treat everyone like they're retarded.

Yup.

What is it with the amount of retards who cant/dont keep left.
Better drivers can do safer speeds. London Orbital 100MPH not a problem. Thats 160KMH. If highways are good, and the newer Sydney ones are, then with some decent driving, we'd all be fine.

Get defective cars OFF the road.
Enforce uninsured, no Road license driver bans.

[Edhem]

I miss driving in Europe. Courteous drivers who actually know how to drive, and road rules that don't treat everyone like they're retarded.

Spot on.

[sandwg]

Yes, that's a fair point. Sometimes they go a bit overboard, but basically here in Australia we go so overboard with OH&S and signage and safety legislation that it's a bloody joke.

So I hear what you're saying, and I agree that they should review the requirements for where and when and by how much such speed reductions are implemented, however when they are warranted, people should stick to the speed limit for the safety of everyone. Every time I drive though road work zones, I drop my speed, and a flood of cars streams past me.

The road work idea is a bit of a sore point for me.
The amount of time i drive along and slow down only to have people whizzing past me or sitting right up my arse only to find there was no actual workers or road works at all (just forgot to remove the signs) is astounding.

The great ones are when you get slowed down to 40 so they can upgrade a footpath...

I find in a few places where the speed limit is 60 and it says to slow down but signage says slow down to "60" in a 60 zone plus there's no workers nearby!

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Queensland Speed Limit Review - Have your say

Funny how things change back in the day speed limit on most highways was 130kph. The roads were single lane rubbish and the cars were not as safe as today's
Now that the roads are dual carriage way and safety has increased in vehicles ten fold all speed limits have dropped. No sense at all.

[Tobes_WIR35]

Yeah it really grinds my gears. I think the reason is because everyone has discarded the old saying of "correlation doesn't equal causation" and instead they've gotten lazy and just thought speed kills, rather than looking deeper into the causation.

Otherwise known as "dumbing it down for the people".

[Machine]

I miss driving in Europe. Courteous drivers who actually know how to drive, and road rules that don't treat everyone like they're retarded.

But everyone IS retarded. That's the problem. Even the ones who think they aren't, are. We all think we're pretty good drivers. We're not. All anyone has to do is keep left. That's it.

All the way left. Not left of right. Not centre. LEFT. As far left as you can go. In the trees if you have to.

Not overtaking? Left
Gonna be slow up a hill? Left
Just made a right turn? Left
LEFT LEFT LEFT.

Keep the **** left. And get out of my way.

Now...I've completed my surveys for several GC roads whose speed limits are far too low. Fingers crossed...

[wai]

Was it the M2 that was "upgraded" from 110 to 100 after being redone?? (in NSW)

Before the widening, the M2 was a maximum of 100 km/h. After the widening, it is still 100 km/h.

What is odd about the M2 is that where the M7 ends, it is 100 km/h, but then as the M2 starts, it drops to 90 km/h, before resuming 100 km/h. About the only reason I can find is that short stretch of 90 km/h has bus stops in the emergency lane along it, speaking of which, they are absurd. There was almost a major multi-vehicle accident when on that stretch, a bus made a stop and promptly put its flashing lights on. This means you have to slow to 40 km/h! One driver decided to drop anchor and almost wore a number of cars following him!

On speed limits, there is always a downside to every upside. The biggest downside is that merely upgrading the speed is not possible on the majority of existing roads because curves and road profiling are not set for higher speeds. The other is that the energy that has to be dissipated in a crash goes up by the square of the increase in speed. We have uncontrolled roads that pass as motorways where wildlife can cross at will. The concentration level goes up tremendously, and this has the effect of increasing fatigue.

Just because a road has a limit of 110 km/h does not mean that it can be increased. There is a deadly stretch of the Hume Hwy just "south" of Goulburn. It is 110 km/h, and has been from the outskirts of Melbourne, but then shortly after the Federal Hwy joins it, there are series of curves that have advisories of 90 and 95 km/h. Many who have driven it for the first time don't believe it and keep at the 110 km/h limit, only to get caught out. There are many, many more such places on our road network that need to be addressed long before maximum speed limits are changed. The limit may be increased, but these advisories will not, and it comes down to the change in speed required.

What we need are fewer changes in speed limit changes and a more consistent set of limits.

[Machine]

...The concentration level goes up tremendously, and this has the effect of increasing fatigue...

Which contributes more to fatigue: paying attention or boredom?