DSG woes in The Age

[Transporter]

He legitimately works for them. This thread is part of a grander plan to add fuel to the issue fire. It's genius in a way. destructive and stupid in another. He does own a VW. Makes him the perfect agent.

Do you know what OzVWCrap, it actually makes a lot of sense to me and it came to me that you could indeed be working for the fairfax or who knows who. The amount of time you spend here and the way you acting in your post just let it out. If you were self employed then your business would be affected by the amount of time you lose by posting and collecting all that info. If you work for someone and you're just a VW customer with the car than may or may NOT be faulty, than that organisation would have to sack you for not doing your job, unless of course it is fairfax. But, I hope for the sake of the future generations that you don't work for the coroner, the fairfax or similar, because they would be just like you and who would need a justice based on vote in the media or "I like button on the facebook".

To others
If that would be the case this thread lost it's credibility, because the one can't take seriously stories got out from people written in the internet forums under the conditions we see (my friend's friend DSG did this, I heard from people that the DSG is no good). If the VW comes out and say there were less than 1% of the DSG made that could have a real problem than you would trust them wouldn't you? If no, then perhaps you should sell the car, you can't drive and be happy with the car, if you don't trust the manufacturer.

Everybody who thinks rationally knows that the fix is not an immediate recall whenever you get e few people jumping in the forums and calling to fairfax or posting on facebook.

Again, I wish that everyone with the real fault in his/her car gets the problem resolved and can start enjoying the car again. It doesn't have to be just the DSG fault; any fault should be repaired ASAP. For that to happen we shouldn't need the media or facebook or use the accidents as a good starting point to go on witch hunt. Because this tactics could seriously backfire one day, and the hunters could find themself in very serious troubles.

Heck, with the 3 DSG cars in the family why wouldn't I want the extra warranty on the DSG (we keep our cars for a very long time) that could come from all this noise? The last think I need is that, my properly working gerabox was opened, the suits to all fix applied.
The fix could be like the last one in the Jeep we had; the torque converter replaced and the ECU and TCM module reprogrammed to reduce the power/torque. I sold the car after that and moved on. You never know what can happen and the legaly you can jump as high as you want, because the engine power is rated and stated at the flywheel.

[cmrtig]

Yup, that's how you encourage debate and conversation, by attacking the messenger and hurling insults.

Are you part of the class action? If yes that would explain all!

[team_v]

ABC news has just reported that there are two class actions in progress.
One in Sydney which already has 100 clients.

Just becasue they have 2 class actions in progress doesn't mean there is an actual case.

We have a big one in SE-QLD over the floods in 2011 and it has over 1000 people in it but they have nothing to go on so it just gets caught up in the planning stage.

[cmrtig]

Whoa! When even a forum's moderators start with the personal attacks, it's time to quit. So that's what I'm going to do here.

But just to answer some of your comments, as I also have in a personal message to you, Herr Transporter:

I have nothing to do with any media organisation or the coroner. I am merely one of the hundreds, maybe even thousands, affected by these flaws in the modern VW platform, and I happen to like posting on forums (I did warn VW about it!). There are many, many other people who have or had the same problem that I did, but you will never see them here. Just look at the way I am being treated here... nobody wants to be insulted the way I have been! So I just think the fan boy brigade should continue here with the circle jerk and keep chasing away any critics like me. Good on yer, you beauties!

Wrong again grandpa. You are being treated in this way because you are incapable of being objective and have absolutely no sympathy for the vast majority of VGA car owners who have never had a problem, unlikely to have a problem and are happy with their cars. You posts have been completely off topic, one sided and with clear intent to suggest that every VW is a potential death trap. Imagine how many previously happy VGA car owners are now running around scared about their cars and resale without one shred of evidence that there are many systemic problems across the VGA models! You and the media have contributed to that and VWA, Audi and Skoda are still in the same position as they were before all this. No recall of anything!

[Transporter]

Whoa! When even a forum's moderators start with the personal attacks, it's time to quit. So that's what I'm going to do here.

But just to answer some of your comments, as I also have in a personal message to you, Herr Transporter:

I have nothing to do with any media organisation or the coroner. I am merely one of the hundreds, maybe even thousands, affected by these flaws in the modern VW platform, and I happen to like posting on forums (I did warn VW about it!). There are many, many other people who have or had the same problem that I did, but you will never see them here. Just look at the way I am being treated here... nobody wants to be insulted the way I have been! So I just think the fan boy brigade should continue here with the circle jerk and keep chasing away any critics like me. Good on yer, you beauties!

I don't see where I've attacked you, you must be thinking who ever is not with you is against you. Can you be more specific?

[mythik]

Whoa! When even a forum's moderators start with the personal attacks, it's time to quit. So that's what I'm going to do here.

But just to answer some of your comments, as I also have in a personal message to you, Herr Transporter:

I have nothing to do with any media organisation or the coroner. I am merely one of the hundreds, maybe even thousands, affected by these flaws in the modern VW platform, and I happen to like posting on forums (I did warn VW about it!).

This gave me a good morning laugh. You can't spin this to be a personal attack on you. Your actions on this forum to incite angst against VW didn't create the outcome which you wanted. Instead all you've achieved is that people here have questioned your intentions and become frustrated with your posting.

[stickshift3000]

I thank you OzVwCrap for providing your account on this forum, and for the frank discussion.

I'm glad these issues have hit the media, it assists those who've been treated unfairly, and with downright contempt, from both the dealer and VWA to finally get the minimum acknowledgement we've wanted all along.

Some VW cars do have serious issues - which can lead to safety issues - and VWA and their owners have known this for a long time. I realise this doesn't go down too well on an enthusiast's forum, but them be the facts.

[cmrtig]

I thank you OzVwCrap for providing your account on this forum, and for the frank discussion.

I'm glad these issues have hit the media, it assists those who've been treated unfairly, and with downright contempt, from both the dealer and VWA to finally get the minimum acknowledgement we've wanted all along.

Some VW cars do have serious issues - which can lead to safety issues - and VWA and their owners have known this for a long time. I realise this doesn't go down too well on an enthusiast's forum, but them be the facts.

It is not his account that is the problem! It is the way he conducts himself. There is a way to assist those with problems, and then there is another way. The problem is in the conduct of fairfax as well. The only losers here are the vast majority of owners. VWA has lost little at this stage, fairfax have increased their revenue and come out looking like heroes after years of recommending VW cars. Everyone I know is pissed off about this because of the uncertainty it has created and a potential loss in resale to benefit an angry minority (250 people vs 200,000)!

[GippsCC]

Whoa! When even a forum's moderators start with the personal attacks, it's time to quit. So that's what I'm going to do here.

But just to answer some of your comments, as I also have in a personal message to you, Herr Transporter

Why don't you settle down sunshine, and stop your rudeness. Moderators give up their time, free of charge, to run this site and they don't deserve such childish behaviour. Adults can make arguments, children throw insults. As a "New Dubber" on this site, I suggest you familiarise yourself with the rules regarding offensive posts.

[cmrtig]

I thank you OzVwCrap for providing your account on this forum, and for the frank discussion.

'Frank'? You can't be serious. There nothing frank in his posts, other than his name perhaps!

[mythik]

I thank you OzVwCrap for providing your account on this forum, and for the frank discussion.

I'm glad these issues have hit the media, it assists those who've been treated unfairly, and with downright contempt, from both the dealer and VWA to finally get the minimum acknowledgement we've wanted all along.

Some VW cars do have serious issues - which can lead to safety issues - and VWA and their owners have known this for a long time. I realise this doesn't go down too well on an enthusiast's forum, but them be the facts.

I 9000% agree with you stickshift3000. Thank you OzVWCrap for providing us with pages and pages of carefully thought out analysis and structured planning for our collective movement forward when discussing this serious issue properly with VW to really get our issues really heard and our problems resolved.

[99_FGT]

Wrong again grandpa. You are being treated in this way because you are incapable of being objective and have absolutely no sympathy for the vast majority of VGA car owners who have never had a problem, unlikely to have a problem and are happy with their cars. You posts have been completely off topic, one sided and with clear intent to suggest that every VW is a potential death trap. Imagine how many previously happy VGA car owners are now running around scared about their cars and resale without one shred of evidence that there are many systemic problems across the VGA models! You and the media have contributed to that and VWA, Audi and Skoda are still in the same position as they were before all this. No recall of anything!

With the exception of the somewhat hypocritcal name calling, I agree with you.
OzVW is being treated like that because in 46 pages he has added little to the discussion, and attacks anyone who might question him or his intentions, let alone actually consider their point of view.
The tragic death of Ms Ryan is being used as a call to arms for all people who have ever (or never) had a problem with VW or VWA, by people trying to push their own agenda. I for one think that this is a bottom feeding act, and if you want to act that way then expect to be treated that way.
Al..

[cmrtig]

With the exception of the somewhat hypocritcal name calling, I agree with you.
OzVW is being treated like that because in 46 pages he has added little to the discussion, and attacks anyone who might question him or his intentions, let alone actually consider their point of view.
The tragic death of Ms Ryan is being used as a call to arms for all people who have ever (or never) had a problem with VW or VWA, by people trying to push their own agenda. I for one think that this is a bottom feeding act, and if you want to act that way then expect to be treated that way.
Al..

Mate a little off topic but I just realized I also have a TRc with the exact same setup as you, plus a blur XCc and a Tallboy carbon!

[Hail22]

So it seems now one judge of World Car of the Year feels he is partly responsible to blame and was slightly aware of the problems...

No Cookies | The Courier-Mail

This is when the cream slowly comes to the surface, we'll see if any other judge's or possibly journalists had prior knowledge yet "may" of decided to pass on the buck about VW's problems.

[cmrtig]

So it seems now one judge of World Car of the Year feels he is partly responsible to blame and was slightly aware of the problems...

No Cookies | The Courier-Mail

This is when the cream slowly comes to the surface, we'll see if any other judge's or possibly journalists had prior knowledge yet "may" of decided to pass on the buck about VW's problems.

From one extreme to the other and he is basically saying not to buy a second hand VW out of warranty. Oh crap there goes the resale even more, unless VWA increase warranty to 5-10 years which is unlikely. Proves my point from before we have all lost now and those responsible have lost nothing and some actually come out looking like heroes.