Sprint Booster Discussion

[Maverick]

I would like to formerly appolgise to PhilMart for an apparent verbal attack regarding a block of wood, I was a little fired up at the time.

Don't worry, so were the people that purchase the Brock Energy Polarizer.

As for the rest of you statistic quoting non-believers I am going to state here right now that my cars 0-100 times are faster as a result of this device, in fact my cars 30- 60 times are faster, in fact my cars (insert any velocity here) to (insert any velocity here) times are faster as a result of the pedal being more sensitive and reactive to input whch gives me A BETTER RANGE OF CONTROL OVER THE CARS MOTION (ACCELERATION AND DECLERATION).

If you take a look at your claims logically and look at what you are doing (reducing pedal travel) you are achieving nothing except a reduction in control. It may feel faster because you foot is moving a smaller distance but nothing else has changed, the values that are transmitted to the ECU still go from 0-100% just over that shorter distance.

Seriously I dont usually get so excited about mods especially to an na but go and borrow one (it takes 5 mins to install) and try it. And btw the group buy price is around the $250 mark which is not expensive given how much difference this thing makes.

$250 is expensive for something that does nothing, in a few months time you will be used to the new shorter travel and you'll be back at square one again. Perhaps they will come out with a stage 2 that reduces pedal travel by 50%?

[stephen8512]

I was writing my previous post whilst you wrote this, so I didn't see this until now.

I love seeing customers feedback on products they have purchased and I encourage everyone to do so. I enjoyed reading your opinion on the product in your first two posts. I have simply responded to something which I believe is a factual inaccuracy in your third post because it goes against what the manufacturer of the device claims.

You have since taken offense to this (and maybe FJ Steve's "spoiling for a dust up" has inflamed it a bit more) but I am not trying to put you down, or anyone else that has purchased the product. I am not trying to discount your positive opinion of the benefit it's had in your car. And I'm quite happy to see that people have organised a group buy to benefit Australian VW enthusiasts.

I'm still not understanding how not only is your car faster (how by just reducing accelerator range), but control has been enhanced (despite reducing the control over the throttle), lag has gone (how, it's still using the same pedal and the same ECU) none of which is possible if you look at how the accelerator pedal and ecu operate.

It seems more like there is a placebo effect occurring here, I get the same thing if I drive my wifes car and jump into the GTI afterwards.

initial acceleration is quicker from standstill with sprintbooster on than off. even when you're travelling at normal speeds it seems to engage quicker from when you put your foot down to when the car actually responds. thats the lag im talking about, which im sure is the DBW lag. i never said anything about it being FASTER. it doesnt give extra power or is it a substitute from something like an ECU reflash or a turbo upgrade. The acceleration of it is smoother and feels quicker and more urgent.

i guess thats the placebo effect you think I am suffering from but i can assure you it isnt. It DOES engage a lot faster from when you put the foot down to when the car responds than when it doesnt have a sprintbooster or when the sprintbooster is turned off. Again, how it does this? I dont know as Im not technically gifted. something about changing the throttle values or some sht that others have written. I dont care to be honest. Because now, it really is a different beast altogether and with the GIAC stage 1 flash I recently got, I'm loving it. I'm not asking you to buy it nor am i promoting it. I do think, however, you should get off your high horse and try and find someone who would be willing to lend you their car for a quick squirt around the block or something so that you can feel the difference and then explain in a technical manner what you believe is happening based on YOUR experience. (doubt anyone will lend you their car nor will this happen anytime soon ...however im happy to be proven wrong in this instance)

If I spent 500, 1000, 10,000 bucks or whatever amount of money on a product that didnt work, no matter how much it cost i'll tell you point blank that it doesnt work. I can tell you that the sprintbooster DOES work. The claims on the website appear to be accurate and the DBW lag IS gone.

Ive driven with all 3 modes for about 3 days each in between modes and I can guarantee that there was a difference in feel and acceleration "punch" for lack of a better word

[thezoneR32]

mate you are wasting your breath. They dont believe us based on their technical explanation of reduction in pedal travel.

What they are saying is that if I unplug the sprintbooster and from a standstill in 1st gear, hit the acclerator down to 50% travel with x amount of force this will be exactly the same as plugging it back in then hitting the pedal with the same amount of force but only to 33%. This is simply not true, the cars reaction is more sensitive even at a touch. I still believe my mouse analagy works here. If you turn your mouse pointer speed down to its lowest setting it makes for inefficient browsing experience and you may have more 'control' over your mouse but you wouldn't get much work done, there is a sweet spot where the mouse works perfectly around the page to allow you to 'drive' the pc how you like.

This device simply gives your foot that sweet spot where everything works in harmony, driver-pedal-car.

nuff said.

[Transporter]

$250 is expensive for something that does nothing, in a few months time you will be used to the new shorter travel and you'll be back at square one again. Perhaps they will come out with a stage 2 that reduces pedal travel by 50%?

I couldn't agree more and IMO it is the best description for that device. I can't believe that so many people fell for it.

[thezoneR32]

I couldn't agree more and IMO it is the best description for that device. I can't believe that so many people fell for it.

I assume that you also do not have one? Ahh yes that would be why you dont think it works.

[Transporter]

I assume that you also do not have one? Ahh yes that would be why you dont think it works.

Look it is all good, as long as you're happy with it, that's what matter the most.
I say no more, and everyone who didn't try the product should spare this thread of the negative comments, enough was said.

[hooba]

Look it is all good, as long as you're happy with it, that's what matter the most.
I say no more, and everyone who didn't try the product should spare this thread of the negative comments, enough was said.

Well said sir.

[thezoneR32]

I say no more, and everyone who didn't try the product should spare this thread of the negative comments, enough was said.

Ah its a bit late to tell people who have not tried it not to make negative comments when you did so already yourself?

[Corey_R]

Here is a link to a whitepaper on the Sprintbooster. It was inspired by someone who was skeptical of customers glowing reviews of the product, as well as claims that it does more than what the Sprintbooster company does, or even specifically say it does things that Sprintbooster says it does not.

Anyway - It's a decent read. This proves that the Sprintbooster does work... it does exactly what Sprintbooster says it does, nothing more.

It's a great, albeit expensive, product for those who want increased pedal sensitivity/decreased pedal movement to 100% throttle.

[Maverick]

Here is a link to a whitepaper on the Sprintbooster. It was inspired by someone who was skeptical of customers glowing reviews of the product, as well as claims that it does more than what the Sprintbooster company does, or even specifically say it does things that Sprintbooster says it does not.

Anyway - It's a decent read. This proves that the Sprintbooster does work... it does exactly what Sprintbooster says it does, nothing more.

It's a great, albeit expensive, product for those who want increased pedal sensitivity/decreased pedal movement to 100% throttle.

And for those wanting to save $249.01 and achieve the same result

Fixed Model


Portable Model - added benefit of faster more responsive braking and 30% increased speed when out of the car.

[technopato]

This is a pretty funny thread and just to start off with, I am the person on the VWG forum who has organized this GB for the sprint booster..

In all honesty, I take offense to being called a "sucker" and I also find it ignorant that some of the posters on here have bagged a product theyve never tried before.

Also how is $330 on a gadget for a car a waste of money as opposed to say $500 on a piece of carbon fiber for the car any different? Isnt it one's perception of what they like and dont like?

So why would you ridicule someone else's opinion by calling them a "sucker"????

Some of you posters on here are probably the most technically gifted when it comes to VAG knowledge... but in all honesty when it comes to Human and Social skills you really need some more practical knowledge!!!!

Id like to see anyone call someone else a "sucker" to their face like that, espescially stranger to stranger....

What is it they call people like that in the cyber space... "Keyboard Warrior"????

End of the day some think this is a waste of money and others see some use in it. So why not just let it be, nothing wrong with technical explanations but "suckers"??????

[stephen8512]

It's a great, albeit expensive, product for those who want increased pedal sensitivity/decreased pedal movement to 100% throttle.

same can be said for lakin plates. great, albeit expensive product for those who want 2 pieces of plastic over their number plates

And for those wanting to save $249.01 and achieve the same result

Fixed Model


Portable Model - added benefit of faster more responsive braking and 30% increased speed when out of the car.

its alright to be scared of the unknown mav. i'd feel threatened too if i claimed to know everything and have someone potentially proving me wrong

[PhilMart]

I would like to formerly appolgise to PhilMart for an apparent verbal attack regarding a block of wood, I was a little fired up at the time.

No probs and no hard feelings .. like I said .. the Sprint Booster web site said it best .. its not for everyone. If you feel you are getting a benefit then that is great.

When I first got my GTI I put my foot down hard and actually thought that I would never get used to that rush of acceleration. But that soon passed and I was wanting more. We all strive to get that first feeling of being pushed back in the seat, and we all go about it in different ways!

[Transporter]

OK, it's not a point to argue and insult each other especially when the people who bought the springbooster are happy with it and feel the benefit, so how about we just leave it there.

Thread closed.

[PAPA GTI]

Sprint Booster A Sucker?

After seeing that there was some off the topic threading from the last post on the Sprint Booster.
I thought I would get back to what was initially a discussion about the Sprint Booster, not calling names.

I just last night placed an order for the Sprint Booster, however just as of today came across this article on The Sprint Booster http://peony888.com/VS/SprintBooster.pdf
by which at the end of the article the conclusion described by the author whom has done some serious testing on the product read:

Conclusion
The Sprint Booster 'is a simple amplifier that multiplies the accelerator pedal sensor signal, making the accelerator pedal more sensitive. It does not eliminate any significant delay in throttle response, nor does it greatly improve acceleration figures. It does not change the adaptive throttle control programming of electronic throttle control vehicles. It does change pedal “feel”. This change in feel is interpreted by some as improved throttle response, acceleration, and a change in adaptive throttle control programming. Considering what it actually does, it is expensive.'

Now, I am still going to give it a try as I think it may add fun to my drive and addition to my Stage II+ APR Tune.

If I am a sucker so be it, i'll let you know in a couple of weeks when I receive the device from O.S