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  • Emissions crisis, does it affect the vans?

    As per the title.

  • #2
    If you are referring to the illegal software issue, latest report is that affects 11 million vehicles fitted with the EA189 CR diesel. They haven't mentioned specific vehicle types.

    Crisis.... LOL
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    • #3
      Not a crisis? I would have thought a 23% drop in share price is more than a crisis for VW, potential fines in the 10's of billions, not a crisis? So what is a crisis? Or maybe I should have inserted "Financial" in the subject.
      As a comparison, Deepwater Horizon oil rig disaster operated by Transocean, BP fined more than $18 billion, maybe more of a disaster than a crisis.
      Guess we will have to wait and see what vehicles have the software.

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        Your welcome
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        • #5
          Only USA diesels so far but Europe and elsewhere are sure to be put under the microscope.
          Possibly may vary between the various iterations - non turbo/single turbo/twin turbo - and lookout Skoda and Audi...
          Damned clever these German engineers, but not quite clever enough!

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            Originally posted by greymad View Post
            Only USA diesels so far but Europe and elsewhere are sure to be put under the microscope.
            Possibly may vary between the various iterations - non turbo/single turbo/twin turbo - and lookout Skoda and Audi...
            Damned clever these German engineers, but not quite clever enough!
            You are incorrect. They've admitted to 11 million engines world wide (at this point).
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            • #7
              Some articles are citing fines of $37,000 per vehicle, but I think this is California only at this stage.
              If VW are cheating, I wonder if any of the other manufacturers are also ? Maybe they are not dumb enough to admit it however.
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                Originally posted by JustCruisn View Post
                Some articles are citing fines of $37,000 per vehicle, but I think this is California only at this stage.
                If VW are cheating, I wonder if any of the other manufacturers are also ? Maybe they are not dumb enough to admit it however.
                Or maybe not dumb enough to get caught YET
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                • #9
                  I would imagine that even though its a problem for VW I don't think it makes one iota to the everyday drive of the cars involved , but if they change the specs it could affect the fuel consumption of affected vehicles . Last one I spotted this over on the general section of the forum , VW tell us if we change the computer tune of our cars then it will void the warranty , talk about the shoe on the other foot .
                  Last edited by Sunny43.5; 23-09-2015, 04:50 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Somebody mentioned since 2009 on one of the news programs. They also mentioned that the US regulators were widening their net, but that might only be referring to VW's sibling companies, or it could be the world at large.

                    In any case, what will it mean for the T6 launch, or should we say sinking?

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                    • #11
                      Apparently the US Government has cancelled the approval for affected VW models with this engine . A bit like our ADR approval once the US cancelled the approval no dealer can sell any affected models until new test are done which can take many many months . I would imagine those dealers will be after some sort of compensation from VW as they may have millions of dollars tied up in non sellable stock .

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Sunny43.5 View Post
                        Apparently the US Government has cancelled the approval for affected VW models with this engine . A bit like our ADR approval once the US cancelled the approval no dealer can sell any affected models until new test are done which can take many many months.
                        It's months if not years away as each variant of a vehicle will require re-certification of the ADR item. It is not a single test required to pass the emission ADR, but a series of tests at intervals while the vehicle accumulates kms. If memory serves me right it is around 80,000 km. That does not happen overnight.
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                        • #13
                          Ouch and yes I saw your reply in the general section WAI , I was generalising but I can not imagine the litigatious mentality of the Americans to sit back and not take it to court . The dealers will be after blood and then imagine the staff layoffs if they cannot sell cars as well . The fallout will be enormous , the part that is sad is some supporters seem to think this will just go away and leave VW with a squeaky clean report card . Yes they do make some good cars lets face it we all own one or more , it's just a shame they have destroyed confidence and respect .

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                          • #14
                            There quality has suffered in recent years as there sales have gone up, funny how the bigger a company gets the more cost saving measures they take. I am just dissapointed that they treat us with disregard, think about the poor pple with a DSG comes to mind, and I am on my 3rd Egr. Lol
                            German engineering doesn't hold as much water these days.

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                            • #15
                              Did saboteurs infiltrate Volkswagen years ago ?,...

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