T5 gearboxes to suit 1.9 TDi..

[Dubswin]

Yep, fair comment re our climatic extremes, I bet they don't get that. But then of course, there is the Dakaar...
Anyways, my new ZF gearbox arrived from VW today, all nicely boxed up. Just waiting for the clutch to show up now.
Just by the by, my mechanic tells me that a number of auto transmissions, previously classified as "sealed for life" are now starting to be classified as "serviceable", albeit with prices well into the upper teens $.
I suppose that is progress of sorts.

[DOUBLECAB]

Question Guys..................if one is looking at buying a T5................ how does one know if it has the 'crappy box' or the 'good one' ?

[Dubswin]

Good question...if it's built in 05 and hasn't had a new box yet, it's the crappy one. VW Aust should be able to tell you when the ZF box equipped vans started coming through. As would the codes, but I don't know what they are. My guess would be some time in 06. Cheers, Dubswin

[DOUBLECAB]

Ok.........so would this crappy box issue be relevant to a 2005 dual cab with a 128kw engine and a 6 speed box?

[Cousin]

doublecab, assume all the autos will give it up somewhere around 150,000 ks
Then look at the price of the van you may buy, add say $7,000 for a rebuild (I have heard they can be done for around $5,500 now) and see how the price looks then
If it's too high, haggle it down so including a rebuild in works ok price wise
I did that when I bought my 06 second hand
They guy was bleeding, but sold
6 months later, at around 150,000 ks the box sh*t itself
Now 'supposedly' the rebuilds will last longer, better valving etc (American instead of German, go figure!) so I'm hoping to get another 200,000 ks off this one


M

[DOUBLECAB]

Hi Volkswagen Fan.... I'm talking a 6 speed manual box.................. not auto.

[Cousin]

Hi Volkswagen Fan.... I'm talking a 6 speed manual box.................. not auto.

Spose we can forget it then

And should have remembered I asked you that couple of pages back



M

[Dubswin]

Back to Doublecab's question...No, I've only been talking about the 4 cylinder 1.9 Tdi engine gearbox - and specifically vehicles fitted with the courier/city manual box as opposed to the far, far more common highway box (but hey that one may have it's problems too, I don't know). Cheers, Dubswin.

[DOUBLECAB]

Hi Cousin ...Volkswagen Fan ... I realise the thread started as the manual gearbox for the 1.9 Diesel but my question still stands.....is any of this applicable to a 6speed gear box in a 128kw diesel 2005 vintage.

[4wheels]

AFAIK there has only been one 6 speed manual in the 5 cyl diesels (I could easily be corrected). Given I was replacing a T3 syncro, which had the ultra-low 'G' gear, when I got my T5 4Motion, I was interested in (lower geared) alternatives, but didn't find any info about them then. Also,I don't think Trakka would go to considerable expense (more than I could afford at the time) to fit Siekel gears to brand new gear boxes for their "off-road pack" T5's, if they could have ordered lower gearing from the factory.

Brian R.

[Colinmc]

I have just had to replace the same gearbox on my 2005 t5 1.9. After a lot of searching we ended up having to go with VW to get a new one. It cost $4900, with a $2800 deposit to make sure we returned the old one. When I ask why they needed the old one I was told that it is VW's policy to recycle the metal from the boxes as all VW's cars require 20% recycle steel. this is why you would fine it hard to locate a reco one.
So I got my local VW guy to fit it only to find after it was fitted & filled with oil that it had a crack in the bottom, It then took 10 days to get a new one from overseas. I am now trying to get $800 out of VW for the removal of the damaged & refitting of the replacment.

[DOUBLECAB]

Ok Guys.....so the probs are all with the 2005 1.9DT 5 SPEED box not the 2005 6 Speed 2.5DT(128kw) box?????

[Colinmc]

All the problems I have found on the web all relate to the 1.9 5 speed @ just over 100000 km & most could of been caused by incorrect oil when new & the lack of a recall or service notice that has happened overseas.

[DOUBLECAB]

Thanks colinmc

[Sunny43.5]

I have just had to replace the same gearbox on my 2005 t5 1.9. After a lot of searching we ended up having to go with VW to get a new one. It cost $4900, with a $2800 deposit to make sure we returned the old one. When I ask why they needed the old one I was told that it is VW's policy to recycle the metal from the boxes as all VW's cars require 20% recycle steel. this is why you would fine it hard to locate a reco one.
So I got my local VW guy to fit it only to find after it was fitted & filled with oil that it had a crack in the bottom, It then took 10 days to get a new one from overseas. I am now trying to get $800 out of VW for the removal of the damaged & refitting of the replacment.

Seems to me that VW dont want owners to reco gear boxes this would be why they want the old ones back . I found that quite a few parts I have bought for my sons T4 were only sold on the basis that old ones were returned to get a deposit back , I dont know about you guys but when I replaced some parts for his van I would prefer to keep the old ones because as as far as I am concerned I own these old parts not VW !!!! if they want them back give us a 20% discount on the new ones and I will gladly hand them over , bloody highway robbery as far as I am concerned . Howard