Replacing T5 128KW TDI

[thevwbug]

Hi Vanners,

Has anyone replaced there T5 128KW TDI with a current Multi.

Of the 103 and 132KW what did you find the most similar ?

I was very happy with my 128s power

the bug

[Tornado T5]

Although not a Multi, I had a 103 as a loaner while my T5 128Kw was being serviced and in general, unloaded driving not a huge difference, once a load on board or up hill the lack of power/torque in comparison to the 128kW became very obvious. The difference is noticed at higher revs as there isn't the urgency my 128 has. I wouldn't 't buy a 103 having had a 128.

[Transporter]

Just had a nice trip on some fast roads through the hills and despite my van is fully loaded all the time, the power and how quickly it comes on through the twiesties is amazing. I don't think that I could downgrade to 103kW.

Think twice before you make the decision.

[baldy]

i just bought the 132 multivan after having 128 crewvan i drove both and the extra stopping power of 132 with the bigger brakes will be worth it alone also the 132 power is heaps smoother and is there all the time no lag

[thevwbug]

i just bought the 132 multivan after having 128 crewvan i drove both and the extra stopping power of 132 with the bigger brakes will be worth it alone also the 132 power is heaps smoother and is there all the time no lag

I picked up the 103 today for a test drive, it lacks the solid punch of the 128.

I have it overnight will load the rug rats in it tomorrow and see how we go.

the dsg is not a fluid as some others i have driven in a jetta and passat.

I am not sure about the 103 it reminds me of a rice burner like the tarago

Its around $5k Extra for the 132 its probably worth while.

the bug

[IN2VWS]

Not sure about other DSG owners, but mine (132kw), has a lag on take off. If you are sitting at a roundabout, or trying to come out of a side street in busy traffic, you see a break in the traffic so you put your foot down, and it takes a bit before she moves, it feel slike a second, might be shorter. A bit scary at times. That is my only complaint about my 132kw DSG.

[Tornado T5]

I think dsg's still need some work to match something like a ZF conventional auto in stop start driving.

[Transporter]

But again, the DSG as is in T5.2 could be more reliable than the 6 speed auto for many owners was.

[Cousin]

But again, the DSG as is in T5.2 could be more reliable than the 6 speed auto for many owners was.

Transporter, when I had the auto rebuild recently, in my 06 T5, I asked the guy if he has much problems with any of the VW dsgs'
He said they just never see them, but the electronics can be problematic.



M

[Transporter]

The DSG in T5 is the same as in Tiguan and is relatively new, that's why he doesn't see them and when he mentioned the problematic electronics, he meant 6spDSG as is in the Golf5. IMO, it will take a few years before we can say; "Yes the DSG in the T6 (not the current T5, too soon) is reliable."

[4wheels]

The DSG in T5 is the same as in Tiguan and is relatively new, that's why he doesn't see them and when he mentioned the problematic electronics, he meant 6spDSG as is in the Golf5. IMO, it will take a few years before we can say; "Yes the DSG in the T6 (not the current T5, too soon) is reliable."

I thought the auto in the Tiguan was still a torque converter type, or have they updated it recently. Any-way, I'm interested to hear any-ones impressions of the DSG box in "off-road" driving conditions, preferably with a T5, but also anything else with a DSG. I've driven a loaner 132Kw DSG for a day (empty van of course, and not 4Motion), and it went very nicely thank you. Didn't notice any hesitancy. I expect my next van will be DSG (4Motion) pending any negativity on "off-road" usage.

Brian R
2007 Trakkadu 128 4M

[Transporter]

Tiguan from MY11 onward is DSG, easily distinguished by DSG marking on the gear stick, it is very robust box, compared to the 6sp DSG as is in the Golf5 and 6. I'll be watching the long term reliability before I get my next van.

[Sharkie]

Tiguan from MY11 onward is DSG, easily distinguished by DSG marking on the gear stick, it is very robust box, compared to the 6sp DSG as is in the Golf5 and 6. I'll be watching the long term reliability before I get my next van.

The 7sp 550NM DSG as in the Tiguans and now T5.2s have been around for almost 3 years already in the Audi Q5. I have not heard of any issues to date, so its proving to be a lot less troublesome than the 6spd "old" DSGs.

And unfortunately like all the DSG's the lag upon takeoff is still there.

[Transporter]

I didn't check every detail on that DSG in the Q5 but in the Q5 the engine is longitudinally mounted and the DSG looks much longer. Í can't imagine that it could be fitted to Tiguan. Maybe part of the DSG is the same.

[Sharkie]

I didn't check every detail on that DSG in the Q5 but in the Q5 the engine is longitudinally mounted and the DSG looks much longer. Í can't imagine that it could be fitted to Tiguan. Maybe part of the DSG is the same.

Absolutely correct, the VW 7spd 550NM DSG is an adaptation of the Audi 7sp 550NM DSG. Hence the reason it took VW almost 2 years to release it after it hit the market in the Q5. I suspect most of the important bits are similar if not identical.

What is important is the fact that in the 11 months since it was released on the Tiguans, we have not heard of any issues at all. Not even a single mechatronics failure has come to light. During those same months there are many posts of 6spd DSG and 7spd 250NM DSG owners in new MKVI Golfs (including Rs) that have had numerous issues ....

Personally I still don't 100% trust the DSG ..... even though I'm now forced to own a car with it in it .... .... and when (if) it fails I'll be making lots of noise about it .... given that our Multi will be absolutely stock mechanically for as long as we own it .... SWMBO has decreed it be so....