G-8VXWWTRHPN Volkswagen Washer Fluid - VWWatercooled Australia

Announcement

Collapse
1 of 2 < >

Email Notifications Failing (mostly Telstra)

Hello everyone. Seems there is an issue with Telstra (possible others) blocking email from our server. If you are trying to sign up I would suggest a different email if possible. If you're trying to reset your password and it fails please use the Contact Us page:
2 of 2 < >

Welcome to the new look VWWatercooled

After much work and little sleep there is a new version of the forums running on more powerful and recent hardware as well as an upgraded software platform.

Things are mostly the same, but some things are a little different. We will be learning together, so please post questions (and answers if you've worked things out) in the help thread.

The new forum software is an upgraded version of what came before, it's mostly the same but also a little different. Hopefully easier to use and more stable than before. We are learning together here, so please be patient. If you have questions, please post them here. If you have worked something out and can provide an answer,
See more
See less

Volkswagen Washer Fluid

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Volkswagen Washer Fluid

    While most of it's rumor, there is some talk that if your washers lines ever clog up your warranty won't be covered unless your using the right fluids.



    The Volkswagen washer fluid isn't exactly cheap at $10/L, but then I don't know that there are many parts that are. Since we seem to tear through the stuff I thought I would look a little closer at it. The text on the bottle says:
    "Suitable for use all year round for the windscreen washing system. Offers the necessary protection against frost, stops the jets from freezing up, frees the windscreen from dirt and protects both paint and the wiper blades. Can be used in all models, must be used for fan-type jets."



    It's listed as being mixed at 1 part fluid to 4 parts water and since our reservoirs are 5L, that's a full bottle to fill it up from empty... or so it would seem.

    Last time around I thought I would measure how much I was putting in. The light had come on early in the week and it was continued to be used throughout the week then filled on the weekend. It seems that after putting in 1L of fluid I only got in another 2.5L of water for a total of 3.5L so that light comes on pretty damn early.

    I haven't tested running it till it doesn't work anymore to see how low it gets since I assume that most people would want to get rid of that light and re-fill the fluid.


    So onto some maths (and you thought you would never need it again). Assuming you started with the right concentration you now have 0.3L of washer fluid and 1.2L of water in the tank. Adding in the full bottle of washer fluid every time will see you end up with a concentration almost double the requirement of about 1 part fluid to 2.5 parts water. This means your good down to almost -16C!

    So to keep it 100% on what the documentation says you would need to add in 0.7L and top up with 2.8L water. Saving about 30% on fluid right there (although you then have to measure out the right amount each time. Something in my brain doesn't like this since you keep ending up with 300ml left in the bottom of a bottle...

    Plan B would be to get a 5L container and pre-mix it then just top up as needed (although I don't know how well it stores in this fashion).

    Plan C is to question the need for that concentration. I note that the various ratio's are all about temps below zero, the second to last one being -16C. I'm guessing a large part of the concentration is about not freezing. Being in SW Sydney I rarely see anything below 0C so freezing in the lines isn't a significant danger.

    Moving to a nice neat half bottle (0.5L) per re-fill keeps my OCD in check and means your running at about 66% the listed strength or about 1 part fluid to 6 parts water.


    Now maybe I just spend all together too much time thinking about these things. Maybe I just keep pouring a whole bottle in each time I fill up and not worry about it too much since I'm saving about the cost of a cup of coffee at work. That and it's only refilled once every 6 weeks or so anyway

    If it has an engine or heartbeat it's going to cost you.

  • #2
    Another way to save a bit would be to buy the whole carton of the concentrate (buy in bulk and save).
    Performance Tunes from $850
    Wrecking RS OCTAVIA 2 Link

    Comment


    • #3
      Originally posted by Transporter View Post
      Another way to save a bit would be to buy the whole carton of the concentrate (buy in bulk and save).
      If you can point me towards an appropriate place where I could save a few $$ I'm always interested. (It's not like a don't have a 5 year supply of oil filters for the VR6 in the garage )

      If it has an engine or heartbeat it's going to cost you.

      Comment


      • #4
        We don't carry the washer fluid at work, but Windex works pretty well.

        I wonder if it minimises algae build-up in the reservoir?
        '07 Transporter 1.9 TDI
        '01 Beetle 2.0

        Comment


        • #5
          It's flamable That in itself is a big draw card for me

          If it has an engine or heartbeat it's going to cost you.

          Comment


          • #6
            The flammability risk would come from the high % of either Ethanol or Iso Propyl alcohol, most likely the later. This would aid in drying to give a streak-free result while importantly lowering the freezing point of the solution for European winters. Anyone have an msds for the product?

            I wouldn't bother with it here in Australia, then again I make my own. As mentioned, Windex will contain the same basic ingredients, just no where near the same level of some form of alcohol. iirc "in the old days" an alcoholic level below 10% didn't require a DG class 3 flammable liquid warning diamond.
            Last edited by Tornado T5; 14-03-2011, 09:27 AM.

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by Umai Naa!! View Post
              We don't carry the washer fluid at work, but Windex works pretty well.

              I wonder if it minimises algae build-up in the reservoir?
              At high concentration levels alcohol has sanitary/disinfection properties. Usually above 60% as evidenced by the instant hand sanitizers you see sold domestically and for say commercial kitchens applications. The VW product could also contain a dedicated biocide.
              Last edited by Tornado T5; 14-03-2011, 09:27 AM.

              Comment


              • #8
                Sorry to dig this old thread up, but where can I buy a bottle of that?? From my local dealer??
                MY12 147TSI Jetta DSG | CW | Sports Pack | Sunroof | Driver Electric Seat | RCD510 | Formula 1 Tint | MFSW Paddle Shifters

                Comment


                • #9
                  Dealers should carry it in stock.

                  While on the subject.......I was fiddling around with VCDS last week. I found an option that I was not sure what it does. It was called "front wiper sweep" or something like that. Not sure what it did, so I activated it.
                  I turned my wipers on, but did not notice any difference...........I left is activated.
                  Then the next day I used my windscreen washers. After the wipers have finished their 3 wipes, the wipers do a cleanup wipe to clean the dribbles 3 seconds after the 3 wipes have finished.

                  Not sure if Multivans have this activated from the factory, but the Transporters don't.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by IN2VWS View Post
                    Dealers should carry it in stock.

                    While on the subject.......I was fiddling around with VCDS last week. I found an option that I was not sure what it does. It was called "front wiper sweep" or something like that. Not sure what it did, so I activated it.
                    I turned my wipers on, but did not notice any difference...........I left is activated.
                    Then the next day I used my windscreen washers. After the wipers have finished their 3 wipes, the wipers do a cleanup wipe to clean the dribbles 3 seconds after the 3 wipes have finished.

                    Not sure if Multivans have this activated from the factory, but the Transporters don't.
                    Yes, there are few things you can activate with VCDS. You can also adapt your door locks to locks on take off.

                    ---------- Post added at 07:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:58 AM ----------

                    Originally posted by frozze View Post
                    Sorry to dig this old thread up, but where can I buy a bottle of that?? From my local dealer??
                    For long time now I'm using Sonax windscreen additive and am very happy with it. (Available from Repco)
                    Performance Tunes from $850
                    Wrecking RS OCTAVIA 2 Link

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      I only use about a cap full when I top up as the scent while nice is very strong.
                      Tig 162 R-Line; Audi TT

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mr gee View Post
                        I only use about a cap full when I top up as the scent while nice is very strong.
                        I ended up grabbing a 5L fuel container so I can mix up the recommended concentration easily and more importantly I can keep both cars topped up at all time rather than waiting for it to run empty before refilling. Personally I like the smell, but maybe that's just the alco in me

                        If it has an engine or heartbeat it's going to cost you.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Just for some background info, wholesale IPA 100% is well under $2.00/Lt, make a 70% ipa, 0.5% surfactant or neutral detergent blend and save even more....

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            i live next to the beach, i use water from the tap. I will go through a whole washer bottle of water in 2 weeks washing the salt off the window. if it gets cold in winter i may stick something else in.
                            132kw LWB Van. Not a tradie..

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Tornado T5 View Post
                              Just for some background info, wholesale IPA 100% is well under $2.00/Lt, make a 70% ipa, 0.5% surfactant or neutral detergent blend and save even more....
                              Can you say that in terms that a Year 7 science class would understand?
                              carandimage The place where Off-Topic is On-Topic
                              I used to think I was anal-retentive until I started getting involved in car forums

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X