T5 2012 model changes and 2.0 TSI Multivan Released in Geneva

[Transporter]

Q@$@#%$#$%$^^!!!!#@%$#% now I'm stuck with this "*****ty" TDI ..... so much rather wanted a TSI Van ....

You can sell it and buy the TSI. I would, no actually, I did.
Around year 2002 I traded in my 2.5 year old Vito108CDI on the new Vito108CDI. Then 3months later, I found out that there was a Vito 112CDI 95kW manual (these were only with A/T in Australia) at the dealer. Quick trip to the dealer to verify that it was the 112CDI (they didn't know, thought that MB put wrong badges on it, and were about to send it back), yep it was much faster than 60kW 108CDI, shook the hand with the dealer and I traded in my 3 months old Vito. It cost me $5000 and I was happy to pay the difference. That was my last Vito, I sold it while was waiting for my T5.

[Sharkie]

You can sell it and buy the TSI. I would, no actually, I did.
Around year 2002 I traded in my 2.5 year old Vito108CDI on the new Vito108CDI. Then 3months later, I found out that there was a Vito 112CDI 95kW manual (these were only with A/T in Australia) at the dealer. Quick trip to the dealer to verify that it was the 112CDI (they didn't know, thought that MB put wrong badges on it, and were about to send it back), yep it was much faster than 60kW 108CDI, shook the hand with the dealer and I traded in my 3 months old Vito. It cost me $5000 and I was happy to pay the difference. That was my last Vito, I sold it while was waiting for my T5.

Already on it Transporter .... hence the reason I know what is in MY12 .... given its a 6-7month wait, ordering in July will potentially see a new TSI350 replacing the TDI in January next year. Enough time to plan for all the tuning its going to need to make it a TSI450+ .....

250kw/500NM T5 will be fun ..... btw, has anybody tried to find out if the Multivans have launch control ......

[Transporter]

Grrrr .... this the van I really wanted ..... ..... don't get me wrong, I like our new Van, but this would have been the ultimate VW Multivan for me ....

150kw/350NM 0-100 in 9.5s and 9.8l/100km ..... stock ..... with bi-xenon and LED running lights (incidentally available for MY12 as an option on all T5.2s)

Imagine the tuning opertunities .....

Congratulation, I'm happy for you.

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[Cousin]

btw, has anybody tried to find out if the Multivans have launch control ......

Both pedals to the floor


M

[Maverick]

Volkswagen T5, Transporter, Caravelle, Multivan Model Year (MY12) 2012 Changes

Volkswagen T5, Transporter Chassis, Transporter Van, Caravelle, Multivan Model Year (MY12) 2012 Changes

All RCD210 and RCD310 display colour change
T5 – All Model naming convention change (e.g. 132TDI becomes TDI400)
T5 – All Lower position of badges on rear of all models
T5 – All Trailer Preparation standard for all models
T5 – All Dead locking of doors – now incorporating warning in instrument panel
T5 – All DSG Logo on gearstick, moved from base plate of gearstick
T5 – All Package code (Z1H) Bluetooth Premium introduced (combines 9ZU and 9Q5)
T5 – All Replacement of seat option packages with individual options
Transporter Chassis Models Revised tool kit for Single/Dual Cab Chassis
Transporter Chassis Models Deletion of model: Dual Cab Chassis 103TDI
Transporter Van Changed tie-down points for vehicles with (ZZ3) high partition wall pack
Transporter Van Park distance control front and rear now available without Body Coloured Bumpers
Transporter Van Package code change for Side Assist (Z1Z becomes P1Z). Only for Transporter (Multivan remains Z1Z)
Transporter Van Confirmation that combination of High Roof/LWB with 4Motion is not available
Caravelle Option of Alarm with interior monitoring (ZF5) now available
Caravelle Park distance control now available without Body Coloured Bumpers
Multivan Addition of TSI350 model with 150kW / 350Nm
Multivan Optional Bi-Xenon Headlights available (PXR)
Multivan Dash Trim Upgrade including stainless steel look highlights
Multivan iPhone, iPod integration for Multivan (with 9WE). No longer USB standard
Multivan New ‘Cascavel’ 17” Alloy Wheel for TDI340 (option) and TSI350/TDI400 (standard)
Multivan Multifunction steering wheel (ZE6) now standard on Comfortline

Full details and photos here - Volkswagen Australia Commercial Vehicle Model Year 2012 (MY12) Changes

[Tig-uan]

From the german configurator site, I am guessing TSI350 price around AUD 54K here:
Comfortline 2.0 TDI 103 kW 7-Gang-DSG 8,2 l/100km 216 g/km 46.850,30 €
Comfortline 2.0 TDI 132 kW 7-Gang-DSG 8,1 l/100km 214 g/km 50.575,00 €
Comfortline 2.0 TSI 150 kW 7-Gang-DSG 10,1 l/100km 236 g/km 49.266,00 €

[Ivo]

How long before there is solid pricing on the TSI?

Real question for me is what will the economy be like in the real world???

[Transporter]

How long before there is solid pricing on the TSI?

Real question for me is what will the economy be like in the real world???

Really good on hwy and as you expect in the city driving (crappy).

[Sharkie]

Really good on hwy and as you expect in the city driving (crappy).

I'd expect to be no worse than the TDI, regardless of what Transporter says ....

My 200+kw TSI Tiguan uses 6.8l/100km on the highway and in the city with my style of driving 11.1l/100km. Our 2011 103TDI Multivan (now with 6300km) uses 7.8l/100km on the highway and in the city with my style of driving 12.2l/100km. I can struggle to get 500km out of a tank sometimes ....

I know from experience that my style of driving sees no real difference in fuel consumption between petrol and diesel (I can easily average 12l/100km in a Golf TDI) in the city and I suspect most won't drive as I do so IMO it would be better than what I get.

So, I'd be expecting to get at most 12l/100km in the city on average ..... and I can live with that ....

[Ivo]

Is it the same engine as the Tiguan? If so, what are they be safely chipped at? 180kw, 200kw, 220kw?

[Sharkie]

Is it the same engine as the Tiguan? If so, what are they be safely chipped at? 180kw, 200kw, 220kw?

Not a 100% sure on exactly which 2.0TSI it is yet ..... Tiguan TSI is the same as in the Jetta/Golf GTI/EOS/Audi A3 and a transverse unit. 155kw/280NM stock, chip only 190kw/400NM. With a few other extras this goes to over 200kw.

Audi has a longitidunal unit 155kw/350NM, found in the A4 & Q5, chip only to 180kw/450NM. This unit has variable valve timing which liberates a bit (70NM) more torque.

Now here is the interesting bits .... Upcoming Amarok will have a longitidunal unit, 120kw/300NM. The fact that the upcoming T5 TSI has 150kw/350NM has raised speculation that it is in fact the Audi valve timing unit. Somebody with erWin may be able to have a look and tell us .....

Also, both VAG TSIs are limited by what the stock turbo will produce, so in order to produce more power an OEM K04 turbo (Audi S3/Golf R) modified to fit is necessary. This raises the Tiguan TSI to 250kw/450NM and the Q5 TSI to 250kw/500NM. Either of these will be fine for me .....

[Ivo]

250KW would be crazy! Hate to think what a modified K04 would cost though.

[Sharkie]

250KW would be crazy! Hate to think what a modified K04 would cost though.

Good thing is .... APR has done all the work for us already. K04 conversions ready for both engines, whichever it turns out to be ....

2.0TSI Transverse
APR - High Performance Development for Audi, VW and Porsche Vehicles.

2.0TSI(TFSI) Longitidunal
APR - High Performance Development for Audi, VW and Porsche Vehicles.

If I don't sell my Tig soon, the K04 Transverse kit will end up on it when the tax man comes to pay me back what he gouged from me during the year ....

[Sharkie]

TSI350 (2.0TSI Petrol) is now available to order ..... $54990 + ORC for Comfortline, $71990 + ORC for Highline. Same spec as TDI400 in both variants. (which still is $56990 in Comfortline)

1st TSI Multivan's expected to reach dealers by November. I'll testdrive 1 st before ordering.

Bi-Xenon confirmed as an option.

[Sharkie]

350TSI Specifications now downloadable from VW's website. Official launch must be imminent.

Importantly, torque is 350NM from 1500rmin to 4000rmin !!!!! thats a 2500rmin torque plateau !!!

Official fuel consumption is higher than the TDI's but I've found the TDI consumption figures to be totally unreliastic .... 103TDI used on average 13l/100km in towndriving and thats with me diving it like I have 1.5 feet in the grave .... drive enthusiastically I'm getting 15l/100km and its still slow. I'm expecting the TSI to deliver the same 13l/100km except I'll be doing 0-100 in 7seconds (once tuned) .....

350TSI testdrive as soon as my local dealers have 1 to drive ....