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    Has anyone tried water decarbonisation to clean there tdi engine ? Anather theory as to why ttdi uses oil is stuck oil rings and apparently a water injection may unstuck rings.

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    Try use good engine flush before changing engine oil. Also, the good quality fuel additive used at every fill up doesn’t add up too much to fuel bill and goes a long way in increasing the engine reliability.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Transporter View Post
      Try use good engine flush before changing engine oil. Also, the good quality fuel additive used at every fill up doesn’t add up too much to fuel bill and goes a long way in increasing the engine reliability.
      Transporter could you please recommend a couple good products ?

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      • #4
        I've used water injection on petrol engines as far back as the 80s. (it was very good on agricultural Ford & Holden engines).

        I've also done regular carbon cleans on my TSI Skoda with a water/turps/metho/degreaser mix. I generally fed 2L into a hot engine running at 3000rpm every service. It helps a bit but isn't a miracle cure.

        I think if you are suffering from gummed up oil rings you are better off changing the oil more often and try and find out what oil has the highest detergent content. Also avoid short trips (walk, ride bike).
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Kombi View Post
          Transporter could you please recommend a couple good products ?
          I use LiquiMoly Engine Detox as an engine flush in the dirtiest engines, Penrite Engine Oil Flush is good too. Penrite makes an excellent DPF Cleaner, it’s a bit more expensive than equivalent LM product, but it’s very effective. Good to carry in the vehicle with you in emergency when you DPF light comes on, 1 bottle is for 30L of diesel, can be used every 5,000km as preventative maintenance.
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            Originally posted by Transporter View Post
            Penrite makes an excellent DPF Cleaner, it’s a bit more expensive than equivalent LM product, but it’s very effective. Good to carry in the vehicle with you in emergency when you DPF light comes on, 1 bottle is for 30L of diesel, can be used every 5,000km as preventative maintenance.
            Does that mean that with my 80 litre tank, I should use the best part of three bottles?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Kiels3927 View Post
              Does that mean that with my 80 litre tank, I should use the best part of three bottles?
              It depends, you might have less than 1/2 tank when the DPF light comes on or if you use it as prevention just wait until you have less than 1/2 the tank. Alternatively you can use LM DPF Anti-clog it's good for 70L of diesel.



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                Thanks.

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                  Thanks Brad, bought van couple months ago with oil consumption issue already present, i don’t do many short trips at all but having said that low revs on long trips not doing these engines much good either I don’t think, I’m in the habit of driving in 6 gear now on the open road, as for walking can you recommend a good fat burning product �� I did water injection yesterday, 5L over 30min at 2500rpm, after about 3l big white smoke guess dpf getting steam cleaned.

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                  • #10
                    Thanks T, I’ll try Detox, I’ve never had a car with such smelly engine oil, do you have best practice recommendation for flush ! I service every 10000km but also burning 2L1000km. Are VW filters better then parts shops ?

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                      Originally posted by Transporter View Post
                      It depends, you might have less than 1/2 tank when the DPF light comes on or if you use it as prevention just wait until you have less than 1/2 the tank. Alternatively you can use LM DPF Anti-clog it's good for 70L of diesel.



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                      Thank you Transporter just what i need to keep the dpf on the straight and narrow
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                      • #12
                        No shortage of anti flush enthusiasts online, a polarising practice it seems.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kombi View Post
                          Thanks T, I’ll try Detox, I’ve never had a car with such smelly engine oil, do you have best practice recommendation for flush ! I service every 10000km but also burning 2L1000km. Are VW filters better then parts shops ?
                          The oil consumption of 2L in 10,000km isn’t too bad. I’d start with 0.75L of LM Viscostabil added to oil at every oil change. I change oil in all our cars every 6months and no one had to add any oil between the oil changes, though they’d do less than 8,000km in that time.
                          I don’t buy every filter from the dealer, but almost alway use recognised brand like Pureflux, Mann, Mahle, Knecht, Hengst from a reputable supplier. Also, I don’t consider VW genuine filter Filtron (Wix filters) brand as a good filter for my own cars, which you can get many times when buying from the dealer. IMO, they are inferior quality just looking at them and comparing to other filters and suddenly even Ryco air filter looks better with better paper and more pleats compared to Wix sorry to VW genuine Filtron.
                          My favourite engine oil filter for 2.5TDI is Pureflux from the dealer, the same filter is in 2.0TDI CBAB in Golfs, Tiguan Octavias up to 2010.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Kombi View Post
                            as for walking can you recommend a good fat burning product ��
                            In Jan 2016 I started walking 2km each way to/from train station (new job in CBD with no parking) in addition to what was a reasonably active lifestyle. I weighed 92kg. By Sep 2017 I weighed 74kg. I did modify my eating habits slightly but didn't "diet". I'm around 89kg now but that's because my walk to the station is only 200m and I stuffed my knee on a slippery floor. Getting back into it soon. It's hard work but not carrying those extra kilos are a lot easier on the joints. I'm mid-50s and the metabolism certainly slows down post-50yrs

                            Originally posted by Kombi View Post
                            Thanks T, I’ll try Detox, I’ve never had a car with such smelly engine oil, do you have best practice recommendation for flush ! I service every 10000km but also burning 2L1000km. Are VW filters better then parts shops ?
                            Mahle and Mann are both OEM suppliers to VW and are excellent filters that are available outside the VW spares network.
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                            • #15
                              Transporter it’s 2L per one thousand kilometres ��
                              Are these brand name filters available from the likes of Repco etc ?
                              Brad I walk 6km four times a week with my wife, better for the waste than dinner dates !

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