What has stopped you from buying a T6?

[Transporter]

This 1st paragraph must either be sarcasm, or written by another person! it

post#5 , by Transporter: ROFL



Im sorry but the Dsg is the only transmission that I've heard of so far that's caused 3 countries(USA, Japan and china ) to force a 10 year warranty and not be sold in the usa by another manufacturer because of those issues.

This is an interesting article, particularly that over 20% of the vw beetles traded have transmission issues, and the same or worse with auto Jetta . Another funny factoid , the mini in the USA has transmission issues, and it shared the same 6spd gearbox with the vw transporter....

Obviously you missed some crucial details, I was referring to 6sp DSG and 7sp DQ500 as I stated.
...and yes I always prefer manual gearbox where possible, especially if it’s only me driving the vehicle.

[Ozsko]

I think it has escaped some peoples attention that the DSG has been abandoned by the VW group in two recent model releases as the original reason for its use has gone away with the introduction of low speed lock up torque converters. The manual gearbox has all but gone the way of the CD player as well like it or hate it.

[Transporter]

Europe and Japan is still more than 80% manual. But, yeah sure in AU people prefer automatic.

[Transporter]

I agree with you on the manual over auto/dsg,
BUT the 6spd /7spd dsg where the reason china, japan and the USA all forced vw to put in place a 10 year, 160,000km warranty.
https://www.autosafety.org/wp-conten...-extension.pdf

For models 2007-2009 (these cars are now 10+years old), the 7 speed DSG was dry clutch back then, it has nothing to do with the 7sp wet clutch DSG in commercial vehicles.

Credit to Volkswagen for backing their product with 10years warranty, you don’t see that very often.
Now, enough of degrading this thread, the topic says “What has stopped you from buying T6”. Not “Come and bitch about it in multiple posts”

[Kiels3927]

Am I the only one who hasn't got the dollars?

[Sunny43.5]

Credit to Volkswagen for backing their product with 10years warranty, you don’t see that very often.
Now, enough of degrading this thread, the topic says “What has stopped you from buying T6”. Not “Come and bitch about it in multiple posts”[/QUOTE]

Last one it was NOT VW who backed their product with ten year warranty , in China VW were told in no uncertain terms that they HAD to placate their customers and the ten year warranty was all the Chinese Government would accept .

[Silver Caravelle]

Am I the only one who hasn't got the dollars?

I suspect not.

[Silver Caravelle]

The 6sp DSG in passenger cars and 7sp in commercial applications (DQ500) are superior to any GM, Ford or even Japanese torque converter automatics in terms of performance, reliability and longevity. There was never ever an automatic transmission not even in Ford, Holden or Chrysler that you could say was better or more reliable.

The 6sp tiptronic in your T5 you had was, Aisin transmission made by Toyota. Many Japanese cars with the same tranny suffered the same fate, despite they had a servicing interval (from my memory 80,000km). In Taragos, in the best case they started to misbehave before 150,000km and I didn’t know anyone who would get to 200,000km without the repair.

The 8spZF is probably the most reliable auto transmission out there right now and guess what in Amaroks it’s filled for life. I remember the the MB 5sp. autos already in early 2000 had first oil change after 9years, so you can’t blame only manufacturers for that your car has not as long life as you want, the environmentalist, greenies are there to blame for it too and I’d say they’re solely responsible. The manufacturers always wanted to protect their products.

I would be happy with an 8 speed ZF or the new 10 speed GM/Ford box. As an aside my 6 speed Tiptronic has worked like a charm for 120k and shifts as smoothly as it has from new! And that is with no auto oil or filter change. I know that is running that gauntlet, but I will leave it as is and take my chances as I have had autos fail in years gone by with regular servicing. Scott

[jets]

I will leave it as is and take my chances as I have had autos fail in years gone by with regular servicing. Scott

If the servicing is done properly it should help extend the life of the trans. It sounds like you have had some poor work done on your cars in the past. A couple of months ago I changed the Haldex oil on our Tiguan. It had only been changed once [according to the service records] at 60,000km service at a VW dealer in Sydney for the previous owner. When I tried to undo the filler plug it just turned, it was stripped. I had a fair bit of trouble removing it. It's a 10mm thread screwed into aluminium & only needs from memory 15Nm. These cowboys are wrecking our cars so I understand your reluctance to have the oil changed. It's no good taking your chances with any service centre & hoping that the guy that works on your car does quality work. I apply this same principle to the tyre fitter who replaces my tyres after a damaged rim on a previous GTI that I owned.

[Silver Caravelle]

If the servicing is done properly it should help extend the life of the trans. It sounds like you have had some poor work done on your cars in the past. A couple of months ago I changed the Haldex oil on our Tiguan. It had only been changed once [according to the service records] at 60,000km service at a VW dealer in Sydney for the previous owner. When I tried to undo the filler plug it just turned, it was stripped. I had a fair bit of trouble removing it. It's a 10mm thread screwed into aluminium & only needs from memory 15Nm. These cowboys are wrecking our cars so I understand your reluctance to have the oil changed. It's no good taking your chances with any service centre & hoping that the guy that works on your car does quality work. I apply this same principle to the tyre fitter who replaces my tyres after a damaged rim on a previous GTI that I owned.

I know I am being somewhat wreckless. I will get the auto serviced next general service. Cheers, Scott.

[Tornado T5]

Am I the only one who hasn't got the dollars?

No, we all don't which is why the banks make such massive profits.

[Tornado T5]

The 6sp DSG in passenger cars and 7sp in commercial applications (DQ500) are superior to any GM, Ford or even Japanese torque converter automatics in terms of performance, reliability and longevity. There was never ever an automatic transmission not even in Ford, Holden or Chrysler that you could say was better or more reliable.

The 6sp tiptronic in your T5 you had was, Aisin transmission made by Toyota. Many Japanese cars with the same tranny suffered the same fate, despite they had a servicing interval (from my memory 80,000km). In Taragos, in the best case they started to misbehave before 150,000km and I didn’t know anyone who would get to 200,000km without the repair.

The 8spZF is probably the most reliable auto transmission out there right now and guess what in Amaroks it’s filled for life. I remember the the MB 5sp. autos already in early 2000 had first oil change after 9years, so you can’t blame only manufacturers for that your car has not as long life as you want, the environmentalist, greenies are there to blame for it too and I’d say they’re solely responsible. The manufacturers always wanted to protect their products.

I thought that Ford used Ford autos way back when in certain models, then Borg Warner autos (3 speed and 4 speed), the ZF A6 appeared in late BA in high end series, they used a Ford 5 speed for a short time with FG while using the ZF built A6 in the higher end models and eventually across the range. A ZF A6 built under licence by Ford was fitted to diesel Territory's so really to be fair to Ford most their auto's until now haven't been their own designs..or am I wrong?

[LogicprObe]

Are any van makers offering a longer warranty in Australia?

[Tornado T5]

Ford have 5 years on Customs and Transits....actually all their vehicles.

[Sunny43.5]

That 6 year warranty in the USA is for Petrol models only , after the dieselgate scandal I would think VW diesels are a poisoned chalice .
Time for VWA to rethink their bloody minded approach to diesel engines here , time for some of the petrol alternatives they get in Europe . My trusty old 2005 T5 with a petrol engine manual gearbox has been so reliable that when the time comes when it is in need of CPR I would rather have it reconditioned than sell it or get a diesel . 320000 kms on the clock 13 years old and only on its second set of plugs and leads has timing belt and water pump done every 100000 . I wont elaborate on the other two T5,s that have diesel engines we have had and still have one as you don,t want to see a grown man spill tears on the keyboard .