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  • Repairing your damaged alloy sump (for the interim)

    First up, Mods, i didn't know where to put this, so here it is. Place it where you like...


    So.. Last night i'm driving along, going to pick a friend up from the Pub.. At the last second I see a concrete block in the middle of the road. I didn't have time to avoid it and BANG!! (sump) ....... BANG (rear axle).... OH ****, this isn't good.

    By the time i'd pulled up there was already a slick behind me. I looked underneath and the sump was busted, oil dripping out. I thought bugger it, i'll see if i can get home before the oil light comes on! haha.. I made it 2 blocks.

    (Sorry for the ****ty phone pics)




    So.. I grabbed my jacket out of the back and started on the long walk home..


    Tilt trayed it to the shop this morning and put it on the hoist to assess the damage.

    A quick wash with carby cleaner to see what we were up against..



    Oil pump was undamaged (Thank christ/god/allah/your homeopath)



    So.... grab that stick of Knead It! (Awesome ****, we use it to bog alloy vacuum form moulds at work)

    First up a damn good clean with carby cleaner to remove all the oil residue etc. Then we tried our best to straighten it up without busting it further using a hammer and a block of wood.

    Using the bits that were broken out we carefully glued them back it with knead it (it's a bit like sticky plasticine before it sets). I had to make a couple of little sections to fill the gap out of some 3mm alloy, but nothing too drastic. Once one side sets, you can fill the other side and push it right in hard to make sure it fills and seals properly.



    Once it sets, clean the sealing faces, put some sealant on the sump and put the sump back on..




    Fill it with oil and go nuts!


    I must stress that, although knead it is damn good stuff and will most likely seal for a VERY long time, I am only using this as an interim measure.

    I have a fully baffled, windaged fabricated alloy sump leaving INA Engineering on Monday (With Corey's oil cooler kit, actually!). I'll chuck up some pics when it turns up and I fit it.





    If you want more info on doing this, hit me up.. But I must stress that it's not a job for the faint hearted.

    Cheers guys!
    Last edited by Preen59; 19-03-2011, 03:19 PM.

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    Correction.. Issam was nice enough to send me a bog standard sump for the cost of the postage, pending pics to make sure the ones he has are the same as mine. No fabbed sump for the Caddy.. But we've got something else in mind later on...

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    • #3
      Knead It is holding up so far. A slight weep, but that's all. I'll just keep an eye on it. Not bad considering the state or affairs it was in to begin with!

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      • #4
        Thats some pretty serious damage!
        Looks like good gear that knead it...

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        • #5
          That was a one big whole in it. You've done a good job with that sump.
          The Kneed it is a good stuff. I also use this with a very good results. You probably know it, but others might be interested.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by schoona View Post
            Thats some pretty serious damage!
            Looks like good gear that knead it...
            Yeah its pretty good stuff! Wish i hadn't had to do it though..

            Still going to drive the Caddy to Sydney next weekend if it doesn't get any worse.. Haha.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Transporter View Post
              That was a one big whole in it. You've done a good job with that sump.
              The Kneed it is a good stuff. I also use this with a very good results. You probably know it, but others might be interested.

              Cheers, mate. It didn't take too long to do either. In a situation where you only have a crack it works even better.

              Never heard of Q-Bond. Might do some research on this stuff..

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              • #8
                I moved the thread to the Caddy section, so the thread doesn't get lost. Other option would be to Restoration and Projects thread if you like.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Transporter View Post
                  I moved the thread to the Caddy section, so the thread doesn't get lost. Other option would be to Restoration and Projects thread if you like.
                  Where ever is fine with me, mate. I only put the info up to help others. It sort of doesn't fit "properly" in any particular section.


                  Maybe here is a time to suggest a "How to" section for most general repairs or similar??

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Preen59 View Post
                    Where ever is fine with me, mate. I only put the info up to help others. It sort of doesn't fit "properly" in any particular section.


                    Maybe here is a time to suggest a "How to" section for most general repairs or similar??
                    Yes, it is a good idea.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Transporter View Post
                      Yes, it is a good idea.
                      You really don't want to know his other ideas hahahaha

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                      • #12
                        The biggest problem with this stuff is finding it holding things together on a 2nd hand vehicle that you just bought.....
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by kaanage View Post
                          The biggest problem with this stuff is finding it holding things together on a 2nd hand vehicle that you just bought.....
                          Hahaha.. I do know what you mean there..

                          Don't worry, I have 2 sumps coming currently somewhere between here and Canada.. As soon as they arrive i'll be putting a fresh one on and crushing the busted one for scrap.

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                          • #14
                            knead it works real well. Used it on a machine engine cover once. Smell's reaalll funky though
                            My sump got busted a coupla days after this... ahh well I'll keep it, weld up the hole and re-enforce it while I'm there
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by GoLfMan View Post
                              knead it works real well. Used it on a machine engine cover once. Smell's reaalll funky though
                              My sump got busted a coupla days after this... ahh well I'll keep it, weld up the hole and re-enforce it while I'm there
                              I've got 3 sumps coming if you need one... Cheap cheap too.

                              Let me know if you need (heh, or "knead" ) one dude.

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