'06 GTI clutch kit part no/questions

[jkmelbs]

Hey guys,

My clutch has begun to slip (guessing it's the original, ~13X,000KM). Eg revs up but acceleration is not what it should be (worse than wife's getz)

Just wondering what the part no is for aus versions of the cars.

Quick googling/ebay searches has thrown up luk, sachs and valeo as the oem replacements, but it seems there's disclaimers saying that it needs to be mated with the same type/manufacturer flywheel (seems a bit weird if they're meant to be OEM and therefore should be the same)

Does it really matter?

Also any recommendations for good (read: cheap) workshops in southern adelaide to fit it?

cheers

[Umai Naa!!]

Need to buy a matching set. They're not interchangeable with one another.

If you buy a complete kit from either Luk or Sachs, you'll get everything you need.

[jkmelbs]

Need to buy a matching set. They're not interchangeable with one another.

If you buy a complete kit from either Luk or Sachs, you'll get everything you need.

derp. the full kits are $1000+ vs $350

Can I find out which one I have by the engine/chassis no?

[Umai Naa!!]

I would be replacing the whole lot.

[sambb]

are you looking at another oem replacement clutch kit which is dual mass, or changing over to a single mass conversion? The latter is a bit less refined (NVH wise) to daily but will be far cheaper. I just put an ECS stage 1 single mass conversion kit (sachs gear for a VR6 and their flywheel). If that's what you are after let me know and i'll give you a link.
sam

[jkmelbs]

are you looking at another oem replacement clutch kit which is dual mass, or changing over to a single mass conversion? The latter is a bit less refined (NVH wise) to daily but will be far cheaper. I just put an ECS stage 1 single mass conversion kit (sachs gear for a VR6 and their flywheel). If that's what you are after let me know and i'll give you a link.
sam

I'd prefer the oem as it's under 400 for the required parts
how cheap are we talking for the conversion kit? My budget is ~800 installed..

So i guess my options are
buy one kit and hope its the right one
buy both and then return/sell the wrong one
drive car til clutch completely gives out and sell to wrecker or part it out

it's not worth it for me to spend close to 2k on a car with a resale value of 4-5k. I'd be better off selling it for 3.5 with the needs new clutch disclaimer

preference is to keep the car, it's a fun thing to drive but i dont have silly money to throw at a 11-12yr old hatch

[jkmelbs]

ended up calling a VW dealership - they weren't able to tell me the flywheel manuf. but did give me a part # - 038 105 264J for the flywheel that's in my car which seems to be the LUK brand.

just waiting on a call back from volkswerke who have had it a few times when i lived in melb. I'm hoping they'd know for sure.

[h100vw]

The dual mass flywheel costs a packet. I doubt that you can do that job under a grand. Even if you convert to single mass you're pushing it.
The std flywheel is likely shagged, if you've been driving it a while with it slipping.
Google on line etka and get the part numbers yourself

[sambb]

IMO you might just get away with the 800 buck budget if you buy a single mass conversion kit (flywheel/clutch/pressure plate/all the bits and bolts) and do it yourself, but 800 bucks go to whoa including labour isn't realistic. I'm guessing for oem replacement that at 400 bucks you've been quoted for the clutch/pressure plate but not the dual mass flywheel that gets done at the same time as they are notoriously expensive. That's why most people convert to single mass once the dual mass is gone because its generally a cheaper kit but itll still cost you nearly as much as your whole budget.

[jkmelbs]

i literally just need it to go for another 20-30,000km, that's why i'm budgeting the 'sandpaper' components only. I realise replacing everything is the 'safest'/simplest thing but i know other things will go wrong with the car at around that time anyway which will make investing 1.5-2k in 80-100,000km of new clutch and flywheel pointless. It'll just be an endless spiral. It's a fun car but there's other priorities now.

I defs will not be doing the timing belt when it's due (probably overdue based on yrs since it was last done at the moment).

Then it'll be time to get something a bit more practical. Getting a 3yo and a rear facing 6mo into the back of a 2 door polo is hilariously unpleasant.

[sambb]

cool. I understand..keep in mind though that even without the flywheel its still a pretty major gearbox out job that wont change the labour cost by much. I'm hearing you re the rear seat access with kids. Mine are now 4 and 7 and its only just gotten to the stage where they can climb in and buckle up themselves. Pain in the arse until then for sure.

[Umai Naa!!]

They come apart pretty easy, only around 4hrs to do the whole job.

[h100vw]

Please inspect the timing belt at least. A stripped tooth or two will write off the engine.
Like I said above, driving it with a slipping clutch is gon8ng to have over heated the flywheel and it's probably got heat spots all over it and could also be warped. I get your point about the next 30k but pulling it apart twice won't be fun either.

[jkmelbs]

a bit of closure if anyone is interested

I got the right part (phew) - valeo 826488. About 260 delivered off ebayUK. Took ages to confirm it was the right part because my car is late 2005 manufacture/MY06 shape so it got a lot of random 2001 golf engine parts that aren't associated with polo gtis on the 'part lookup by car' filters on most websites.

install was 500 inc new gearbox juice
so got it in under my 800 budget

The car drives much better, actually stalled it on the way out of the workshop carpark because the clutch was engaging haha. The clutch feel is also much smoother/springier/easier. Feels like a different car that i've had to relearn to drive it.

hopefully it does last the 30-40K I need it to and something new doesn't break/fall off :O

[simon k]

I just put an ECS stage 1 single mass conversion kit (sachs gear for a VR6 and their flywheel). If that's what you are after let me know and i'll give you a link.
sam

could I please have that link Sam?