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    I'm going to go ahead and remove all the air con gear in the car. It hasn't been re gassed in 4 years and I don't intend on doing it either. Its all just dead weight mostly on the heaviest corner of the car so its coming out. I've looked around on the web but I can't seem to find shorter A/C delete ancillaries belts. Does anyone who has done this know if there are shorter belts that are available and if that's all I really have to worry about with this mod?

    thanks
    sam

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    Originally posted by sambb View Post
    I'm going to go ahead and remove all the air con gear in the car. It hasn't been re gassed in 4 years and I don't intend on doing it either. Its all just dead weight mostly on the heaviest corner of the car so its coming out. I've looked around on the web but I can't seem to find shorter A/C delete ancillaries belts. Does anyone who has done this know if there are shorter belts that are available and if that's all I really have to worry about with this mod?

    thanks
    sam
    Measure around the pulleys and miss out the AC and then look on line for a belt of the appropriate length.
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    • #3
      Is that just a matter of removing the compressor and sorting a shorter belt? Leaving the radiator and pipes in?
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      • #4
        Not if you wanna do it properly, if all you are doing is pulling the few pipes out and a compressor you may as well leave it in. Condensor and evap need to be taken out also, one of which is a dash out job.
        Volks Handy
        Servicing - Repairs - Diagnostics - Mobile fault scanning/clearing - A/c work
        10 years experience working for Audi/VW/Skoda
        Now in Perth NOR, Western Australia.

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        • #5
          I was mainly hoping to remove the compressor and the condenser (that's the AC radiator in front of the radiator isn't it) - just the heavy stuff at the front of the car. There must be 20+kg of dead weight there out over the front wheels that I have no use for + I assume I'd get better airflow through the radiator with the codensor removed. If possible the pipe work can stay in so that I can reinstall it down the track before/if ever I sell it. Beside the radiator there are some AC hard pipes that use compression fittings held in by circlips that if I separate might allow me to remove the condenser neatly. That's what I was hoping for anyway.

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          • #6
            Not worth the hassle mate, compressor is at most 5kg; condensor maybe another 2kg?

            Go for a jog and take a decent dump before you go track, same same.
            Volks Handy
            Servicing - Repairs - Diagnostics - Mobile fault scanning/clearing - A/c work
            10 years experience working for Audi/VW/Skoda
            Now in Perth NOR, Western Australia.

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            • #7
              only 5kg for the compressor yeah? I thought it'd be heavier than that. The compressor has a clutch system or is it always a draw on the crank?

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              • #8
                I have removed the compressor and condenser and piping from my engine bay, dont want it on my new engine, it looks horrid

                I will be searching for a new belt also. Was told to do what gav said, measure and go to supercheap or somewhere and look for the right length ribbed belt
                MODS- TOO MANY

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                • #9
                  Got a weight figure from what you removed? Yeah i'll source the belt at least so I have it. I'd thought that maybe there were 1.8T's in something that had no air con and that there might be an off the shelf VAG belt but if I can find one at repco/supercheap etc then even better.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by sambb View Post
                    Got a weight figure from what you removed? Yeah i'll source the belt at least so I have it. I'd thought that maybe there were 1.8T's in something that had no air con and that there might be an off the shelf VAG belt but if I can find one at repco/supercheap etc then even better.
                    Hmm I put all the parts off into storage where i never go, didnt weight them

                    Im guessing the compressor is about 10kg (quite heavy) , condenser would be another 3kg, lines another 1kg
                    MODS- TOO MANY

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                    • #11
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ID:	1826201anyone have experience seperating these AC fittings. There seems to be a circlip inside but also a little pin that has popped up into the outer housing.

                      I managed to source a generic dayco belt. If it all fits i'll passn on the part number.

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                      • #12
                        Hoyhoy.

                        Well I have found the Air conditioning to come in very handy mainly to turn on the twin cooling fans on the cool down lap & when entering back into the pits.
                        It makes a big difference..........
                        Hooroo.

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                        • #13
                          yeah I remember you bringing that up a while back, so I'm going to wire onto the plug side of the pressure switch and use that circuit to directly switch the fans on/off via a toggle switch - that's assuming I can neatly get the compressor and core separated from the hardpipes which I think I'll be able to do if I can get them to come apart at the above compression fittings.

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                          • #14
                            stuffed around more or less all day and luckily could return my first attempt at a shorter AC delete ancillaries belt. The one that fits is a Dayco poly-rib 6PK0940 370K6. The "940" suffix means 940mm and the "6" means 6 ribs. Its 21mm wide. The tensioner sits slightly less advanced than with the standard belt and compressor fitted but it is easily within the tensioners operating range aok. Had a blackout which has held me up tonight so I might just see if I can get the compressor out from underneath for now and save the condenser core etc (whole front off the car) for a more motivated night.

                            The pressure sensor looks to be a 3 pin. the pressure sensor gives a variable range ohms reading I think so its not as easy as just bridging 2 wires to give yourself radiator fan control. will have to look into that one a little more.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Eddy View Post
                              Hoyhoy.

                              Well I have found the Air conditioning to come in very handy mainly to turn on the twin cooling fans on the cool down lap & when entering back into the pits.
                              It makes a big difference..........
                              I had a problem with my radiator a while ago and needed to run the aircon to cool the car, since upgrading to an aftermarket MK4 Mishimoto, i no longer have that problem and the temp hardly moves
                              MODS- TOO MANY

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