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Hottuning coilovers for polo gti $950 fitted

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  • #16
    There are some factors that are being missed when parts are sold here .
    Public liability and insurance - As an importer for a part you are deemed the manufacturer of the product and take all responsibility of that given product . This type of insurance costs a fortune and sometimes hits double figures even for a small operation ! If a coilover/shock/spring was to fail causing damage and it was traced down to the suspension then your car insurance would be chasing the company that imports these products , if the company that imports these products doesnt have any insurance or you yourself imported the parts then its your liability thats at stake . Would hate to be in this position if you hit a Ferrari or drove through a shop front !

    Manufacturing costs - A vast majority of the cheaper coilover kits are now coming from China / India . Some of the quality is well below par and there are a few kits that wouldnt even met TUV approval . Before you buy Id be making sure it has TUV approval if its a cheaper kit , all the more expensive kits usually pass with flying colours .

    Shopfront and support - Anyone who imports coilovers should have a shopfront and somewhere where they can rebuild coilovers and test shocks . Would you really deal with someone who just makes a quick buck selling parts on the side without any backing if anything was to go wrong ? Just recently an importer for bodykits / exhausts disappeared after taking multiple orders and now cant be found .

    The suspension parts itself - The biggest test for any suspension part is motorsport itself . I dont know anyone on this forum that has race level experience to test coilovers to the limit (I could be wrong) , but there are plenty of weekend warriors so we have plenty of people willing to give it a go . On a European car level there is very few actually grass roots racing on the lower end models cars . So , who is gonna hire a track so we can do some real "comparisons" <rubs hands>
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    • #17
      All good points, knowing that when you order something that you will get it is a factor, although not really part of this discussion.

      Support, or lack there of is also a fair point. Most decent sellers offer a warranty on the product, even if it means you have to pay to freight the things to another country, mind you with some of the low cost options it's probably cheaper just to buy another set. But at that point you should be asking yourself if the "cheaper" option is actually worth it.

      Motorsport testing. Yep, brand names are used in motorsport and are tested to their limits, no doubt. But like I said, most people won't go anywhere near those limits. So while I won't deny the brand names are proven better, that still doesn't mean the cheaper options aren't just as good, they just aren't proven, and like I said most people may only need 50% of those limits so the cheaper option is very viable.

      TUV approvals, I agree that getting an approved kit is well worth it, but even the lowest cost options from VenomMotorSports in the UK are TUV approved so I think we can safely assume that it's possible if not probable that most kits will be TUV approved. Still something to worth checking before you buy anything.

      Insurance... There is a hairy one. Something most people would never consider. Also something I don't know enough about to make any really informed comments beyond general wonderings.

      Whats the likelyhood that things would be taken as far as all that? I understand that when talking insurance you need to assume the worst, but again, most things in most cases wouldn't go past the assessor saying, yep you crashed your car... Do they really investigate which part broke to the degree that would be required to take something to court because I am reasonably confident a single assessors opinion would hold much weight.
      Maybe if the part failed causing you to spear off course into a group of kindergarten children on a field trip to the world cutest puppy convention being hosted by the pregnant womens association a full inquest would happen...
      Also, from memory, my shocks have little or no markings as to who made them meaning the next owner wouldn't know who to point at, sure that usually means it's the fault of the owner but I highly doubt that a pre purchase inspection would have any issue with my kit allowing them to make the choice to not buy my car or to replace the suspension.

      I don't really mean to treat this part so lightly, and I will highlight I don't really know nearly enough about this side of things but it would be *very* interesting to hear from an insurance person on how these things actually go.

      Long story short, I think that while you have made valid points that anyone thinking about the cheaper options should be aware of, I still think there is hefty premium that isn't entirely warranted for the brand name products.

      If it has an engine or heartbeat it's going to cost you.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Bug_racer View Post
        Manufacturing costs - A vast majority of the cheaper coilover kits are now coming from China / India . Some of the quality is well below par and there are a few kits that wouldnt even met TUV approval . Before you buy Id be making sure it has TUV approval if its a cheaper kit
        QFT

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Bug_racer View Post
          Before you buy Id be making sure it has TUV approval if its a cheaper kit , all the more expensive kits usually pass with flying colours.

          Since you mention it I have a copy of the TUV approval for these. Anyone that sells stuff that hasn't been properly approved is on a hiding to nothing!

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          • #20
            Im buyin em, not a great deal of adjustability, hence the price, but i don't need massive adjustability, Considering pedders charge 600-800$ for some generic spring,.. 950$ fitted for this level of coil over makes em a bargain,
            im going to set the nice and soft.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Edra View Post
              Im buyin em, not a great deal of adjustability, hence the price, but i don't need massive adjustability, Considering pedders charge 600-800$ for some generic spring,.. 950$ fitted for this level of coil over makes em a bargain,
              im going to set the nice and soft.
              I just purchased a set from EVOROBIN for a MK1 golf cab.

              I am happy as, a standard upgrade of shocks and springs will cost you more than that mate !
              1993 MK1 CAB ! Work in Progress........

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              • #22
                Hot Tuning Springs

                Interesting....

                Was there a lead or contact as to where these can be procured? I'm after a cosmetic drop without the stiff ride (and low budget to boot)!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by noone View Post
                  Interesting....

                  Was there a lead or contact as to where these can be procured? I'm after a cosmetic drop without the stiff ride (and low budget to boot)!
                  PM Evorobin (see previous page)

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                  • #24
                    i've had a fair bit of experience with hottuning coilovers. they're stiff but quite compliant compared to other spring/shock combos i've riden in.

                    i think the issue with hottuning is not so much the track weapon but more the low cost cosmetic option. one would think that any serious trackwork would warrant extensively tested and developed suspension systems who's primary advertisement wasn't "120MM DROP!".

                    i'm sure you could ship in cup kits from overseas relatively cheaply, but however much i like driving my golf fast, i bought hottuning cause they look MF cool..
                    87' MK2 GTI
                    13' MK7 TDI

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                    • #25
                      i had hottuning and all i can say is they ok for budjet but shocking handling and dont go very low without being on the bumpstops, if your looking for a 45-50mm drop they are ok, but save up and buy weitech or kw ! I just recieved my weitechs and oh boy the quality is amazing all in for uk £500!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Chrisuk-polo View Post
                        i had hottuning and all i can say is they ok for budjet but shocking handling and dont go very low without being on the bumpstops, if your looking for a 45-50mm drop they are ok, but save up and buy weitech or kw ! I just recieved my weitechs and oh boy the quality is amazing all in for uk £500!
                        i tend to agree , unfortunatly with suspension you usually get what you pay for.
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                        • #27
                          Ive got hottuning on the polo atm and they are serving me well, no issues and ride and handling isnt a isnt at all. money well spent. Also awesome on the track as I have tested!!
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Chrisuk-polo View Post
                            i had hottuning and all i can say is they ok for budjet but shocking handling
                            Yeah maybe ok for a daewoo or lancer

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                            I can say that cause I have KW's lol
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