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  • #16
    Originally posted by tosspot View Post
    I think people mistake the handling of the MX-5. They feel like they handle well because they aren't going as fast when they go around the corner.
    Hahaha having tracked the '5 for a few years, I can confidently say that cornering speeds are way up there with the best. In fact the original NAs (first gen) actually record faster corner times than the current NC models even though they obviously lose out in the straight. They're also so forgiving when you get into a slide too, something I'm not so eager to try in a FWD car

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Roodosutaa View Post
      Hahaha having tracked the '5 for a few years, I can confidently say that cornering speeds are way up there with the best. In fact the original NAs (first gen) actually record faster corner times than the current NC models even though they obviously lose out in the straight. They're also so forgiving when you get into a slide too, something I'm not so eager to try in a FWD car
      FWDs carry way more speed into the corner turn hard early, straighten the wheels and plant your foot when your pointing the right way to get out of the corner (obviously not to the point of spinning the tyres).

      Where are you located?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by tosspot View Post
        FWDs carry way more speed into the corner turn hard early, straighten the wheels and plant your foot when your pointing the right way to get out of the corner (obviously not to the point of spinning the tyres).

        Where are you located?
        Ha - that's what I do when I race my Clio 172 on GT4. Never had a FWD performance car in real life.

        I'm in Sydney mate - mmm I should fix up my profile.

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        • #19
          i dont want to create a monster.. but http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...3&t=540907&i=0

          interesting thread.

          also. welcome to watercooled turbo pogo = much more exploitable power than NA! i really like the polo gti. bloody p plate restrictions

          also
          87' MK2 GTI
          13' MK7 TDI

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          • #20
            Pics? Will get around to it soon-ish... won't be hard for you to picture a bone-stock Polo GTI in silver though

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            • #21
              Originally posted by tosspot View Post
              I can't on mine, as soon as i touch the break it cuts throttle.
              I'm with Adam on this...I have never had any troubles with heal and toeing in mine.
              "If can't get behind your troops, feel free to stand in front of them..."

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Roodosutaa View Post
                I prefer a good chassis and handling over other aspects and so have seriously considered the Clio Sport 182 Cup
                ....without a well sorted chassis/handling dynamics, there's only so much power you can use. As good as the Clios are, French build quality and reliability doesn't compare to VAG - good move.

                "Not expecting MX-5 handling (and let's face it, very few cars in the same price bracket come close)."


                Yep, MX5 are very hard to keep up with in corners, and are sublime to drive (chucking out the rear-end is awesome fun ).

                "Gear shift - again, very few cars come close to MX-5 on shift quality and the short throws so I'm not expecting the same standard."


                When I first test drove a new Polo GTI, it immediately reminded me of the MX5 - precise, short gate, click into place feel.

                "Overall I think the car is fantastic value, ...as a complete package it's pretty hard to beat."


                Pity, I just sold some parts you could have sourced for your new Pog - would have given you a different perspective on what a well sorted Pog can do to a Clio Sport 182 Cup

                Welcome, ...now you're in a VAG car, there's no turning back :ballandchain:
                Last edited by GT3; 20-06-2008, 09:50 PM.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by GT3 View Post
                  Pity, I just sold some parts you could have sourced for your new Pog - would have given you a different perspective on what a well sorted Pog can do to a Clio Sport 182 Cup
                  Hmmmm interesting.... what parts could these be???

                  Just got home driving through the wet - the car just seems to want to hang on to corners, was going up Pacific Highway through a few bends in the middle lane (road was empty) at a speed where the MX5 would start to feel a bit twitchy if you're not careful on the throttle, half expecting the Pog to run wide or the ESP to kick in, it just took it and went about its business, no lights blinking back or any indication of it going anywhere than it was pointed. Not bad these Conti's, now I wonder what a RSB will do.

                  Welcome, ...now you're in a VAG car, there's no turning back :ballandchain:
                  The sense of quality is impressive but I still regard the bottom rung Audi's as tarted up Skodas or Seats with better bits Which is why VWs are the most "honest" cars out of the lot I think. Can see myself going back to RWD some day though - a new Torana might fit the bill if Holden builds it

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by tosspot View Post
                    I can't on mine, as soon as i touch the break it cuts throttle.
                    Hmm mine doesn't cut throttle - just that ideally you'll need to at least blip it up 1000-1500rpm to get a smooth change but most times I couldn't "heel" the throttle deeply enough to get that unless if twist my foot at an awkward angle where it's nearly horizonal to the floor

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Roodosutaa View Post
                      Hmmmm interesting.... what parts could these be???

                      Just got home driving through the wet - the car just seems to want to hang on to corners, was going up Pacific Highway through a few bends in the middle lane (road was empty) at a speed where the MX5 would start to feel a bit twitchy if you're not careful on the throttle, half expecting the Pog to run wide or the ESP to kick in, it just took it and went about its business, no lights blinking back or any indication of it going anywhere than it was pointed. Not bad these Conti's, now I wonder what a RSB will do.



                      The sense of quality is impressive but I still regard the bottom rung Audi's as tarted up Skodas or Seats with better bits Which is why VWs are the most "honest" cars out of the lot I think. Can see myself going back to RWD some day though - a new Torana might fit the bill if Holden builds it
                      The car is very good in the wet. I'm always amazed at how little trouble I have around corners in the wet and how much faster I push through each corner. Roodosutaa do a skid pan event when you can

                      aus liebe zum automobil

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Roodosutaa View Post
                        now I wonder what a RSB will do.
                        Probably make it more dangerous.

                        You'll notice Eddy (the one with the most mods out of us all) has no RSB, but he does have a large front one.

                        Guy didn't have one in the APR Polo as well from memory, might want to ask the reasoning behind this before jumping in and doing it.

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                        • #27
                          The reason Guy didnt have one is because he was concerned about snap/liftoff oversteer. Which is fair enough as Alex had it in his mk4 gti pretty bad apparently, having said that i have NEVER experienced this even on a track where i was going through high speed corners (guy told me these where the worst) and trying to induce it. Each to there own i guess. RSB was one of the cheapest and most affective suspension mods i have done. But this is just my opinion.

                          Oh and congrats on the car.
                          For Sale 2006 VW Polo GTI
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                          • #28
                            Rear sway bar is one of the best and cheapest mods you can do.Timbo and I both have done extensive laps at Wakefield and other tracks on various settings[ours are adjustable]with absolutely no problems.
                            Understeer is greatly reduced,with no side effects.You can trail brake into corners,and the back still sticks.
                            Others are running them with good results.
                            Cheers
                            Len

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by MACCAA View Post
                              Rear sway bar is one of the best and cheapest mods you can do.
                              While it is a cost effective mod, the WL RSB remains a controversial mod, and in inexperienced hands, can induce snap/liftoff oversteer. VW deliberately induce lots of understeer bc 1. it's safer and 2. will trigger an early response when the car is about to lose it's line and/or traction. With the WL RSB, you narrow the early response to a nano second.

                              I've chatted with Guy about lots of mods, but I've never heard him express more disdain for a mod than he has for the WL RSB, ..thinks they're junk and dangerous. I had a look under my car recently and noticed RSB was beginning to corrode

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