Braaaakes

[s4mmie]

Aargh, I can't decide on what brakes to upgrade!
They desperately need something done.. at Lakeside I had severe fade which I suspect to be primarily bad fluid, but the pads are prob on their way out too.

I think I need new rotors also as they are verrry bumpy!
I'll definitely be fitting braided lines and better fluid, but I can't decide on the size.

The car is primarily used for the street with the potential for a happy laps fang every month or so..
Bigger turbo upgrade on the cards too...
With that in mind, I only want to add as much braking power as I need... 12-piston calipers and 1m discs look great but in my opinion it's just added weight if you don't need it.

From what I've read, a few people feel the stock size rotors are great once you upgrade the fluid and pads. Eddy was on stock size rotors for a long time, speaks for itself. To upgrade to slotted rotors in stock size with A1RM pads, braided lines and racing fluid, I'll be looking at around $850.

To order the ECS TT/S3 size brake kits with pads, lines and fluid, I'm looking at roughly $1900 for new bits.


Now I know the TT upgrade is a nice upgrade, but would the extra cost and weight be worth the extra braking capacity?

[jasn78]

Sam, if you ever want to test out what a set of tt brakes feels like on the polo let me know, you can take mine for a spin

[VWindahouse]

These are a great price Sam!

http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/...100-79135.html

[Jmac]

Sam your fluid is like tea mate, but knew you were going to swap out with new anchors
cheers
Jmac

[s4mmie]

Yeah I definitely need to replace the stock rotors, pads and fluid in there anyway, so either way I'm up for some cash.

Geez, they are a good price... still not sure if I need the extra braking and weight though. I want them because they're shiny and would fill my wheels nicely though!

I think I'm going to chuck some standard size slotted rotors and A1RM pads in and see how I go next happy laps. I'm hoping they will be adequate. If they are score, if not I'll just have to look at upgrading once the turbo goes on...

[kaanage]

I think I'm going to chuck some standard size slotted rotors and A1RM pads in and see how I go next happy laps.

[nightphotographer]

These are a great price Sam!

http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/...100-79135.html

And only about $60-70 shipping to QLD too if they don't sell soon they'll be going on my car, was hoping for a quick sale to fund my next project, but I'm buying that in 2 weeks regardless

[Eddy]

Hoyhoy.

Sam, just to let ya know that I give my brakes a lot of attention, even with the upgrade set-up I change the pads for the track & flush the fluid for every meet.
The older the fluid the lower the boiling point, because it gets moisture in it over time even in a sealed container after its been opened.

[Jmac]

Yeah you do Eddy, in a word Hygroscopic. Thats its job but thats also its down side

24ths normal fluid , super dot 4 and the likes, Dot 5 martini or SRF only 12mnths

Cheers
Jmac

[seangti]

If anyone is interested in testing 100-0 braking distance to compare the factory, to TT to whatever else, let me know as we can use GPS to do that. With my burnt out brakes, cold stopping distance was 54m, by the 3rd stop it was something like 38m. In an emergency situation, that difference is a quite a big accident, I'd have to check the data again to see what speed I'd have been doing.

My brakes feel awful and don't stop when cold, but that's cos i've cooked em everyway till sunset, when new and if used as they were designed (for street), they'd be fine.

[VWindahouse]

Ok so here's one for you. There is a site in the UK that offer completely refurbished Porsche calipers and often have the ones that fit the MK Golf GTI and therefore our Polo. They come with carriers for 312mm rotors. I know there are two main benefits of going to the Porsche 4 pots over the OEM calipers;

1. Huge unsprung weight saving
2. better and more even clamping

But most people on here are vouching for the OEM rotor size of 288mm being sufficient for track duties and therefore don't see the need for heavier 312mm rotors. So say for example if we got a group buy together for the calipers does anyone know how hard it would be to get carriers machined to cope for 288mm rotors that would fit these Porsche 4 pots?

Here is a link to the site and the calipers that fit our Polo's

Products / Porsche Boxster 2.7L Front Calipers for Vw, Audi, Skoda, Seat... - Porsche Boxster 2.7L Front Brembo Calipers for sale, refurbished in red, pads, pin kit, powder coating.

I have already been in touch with them and just waiting to hear if these will also fit the HEL braided lines.

Thoughts??

[VWindahouse]

For illustration purposes here are a few shots of the ECS carries for the Porsche calipers on 312mm rotors.

Volkswagen Golf IV 1.8T > Braking > ECS Stage 2 > ES#1170 ECS Big Brake Kit - Stage 2 - Slotted Rotors (312x25) - MK4S2V1BBK-R SLT

For those with a fabrication back ground please comment

[s4mmie]

Mate I like the way you think. I'll be down for this idea.
I didn't realise the Porsche calipers were that light?
I'm after the lightest and able setup and this sounds pretty perfect!

I can knock up the caliper brackets on CAD or Solidworks if I have some dimensions to work with.
Someone on here has to have the resources to get them machined?

[VWindahouse]

You are one talented fella Sam! Cheers

[s4mmie]

So has anyone got a Porsche caliper and a stock caliper carrier lying around?