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  • #31
    I'm getting my H&R monotube coilovers (hopefully it comes with shorten drop links) and will get it installed plus corner weighting and geometry corrections soon. Will do a review soon

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    • #32
      Anyone have any info on a front swaybar upgrade , how it feels etc.

      Done a track day and the car seems to understeer even with the rear bar on its hardest setting. Thinking on trying a front bar
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      • #33
        I believe noone has a FSB.

        This is a decent read on FSB feedback: http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/foru...ion-41024.html

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        • #34
          Hey Troy,

          done a couple of recent track runs on a fairly elevated track which really shows up all the flaws of a fwd car.

          The second run I had the rear on medium and the front changed also to medium from soft and I think it's the closest i'm going to get to a completely neutral balance on the the Devil. Never before seen so much turn in and no understeer. And the most grip i've ever had from a takeoff and cornering. I also have a Forge strut brace and a Wiechers steel lower brace so the front end is very tight now especially with the sway on medium. I dare say If I went with damper adjustable coilovers and dialed a slightly harder setting on the fronts it would be go cart like experience. Oh and from what i've read the light weight rims help with turn in and feedback also. It was fun disposing of a few Golf R's too
          Last edited by VWindahouse; 29-01-2012, 09:51 AM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by VWindahouse View Post
            Hey Troy,

            done a couple of recent track runs on a fairly elevated track which really shows up all the flaws of a fwd car.

            The second run I had the rear on medium and the front changed also to medium from soft and I think it's the closest i'm going to get to a completely neutral balance on the the Devil. Never before seen so much turn in and no understeer. And the most grip i've ever had from a takeoff and cornering. I also have a Forge strut brace and a Wiechers steel lower brace so the front end is very tight now especially with the sway on medium. I dare say If I went with damper adjustable coilovers and dialed a slightly harder setting on the fronts it would be go cart like experience. Oh and from what i've read the light weight rims help with turn in and feedback also. It was fun disposing of a few Golf R's too
            How is the Whiteline rear toe correction kit
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            • #36
              The wheel alignment printouts say they're a winner!

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              • #37
                front sway can add a lot of traction and make the ride stiff. I'm not sure of the direct difference between stock and the fsb as I had coilovers and a bunch of other bits done at the same time.

                If you are keen, I'd suggest looking towards a LSD and sticky rubber for the front end.

                The much cheaper FSB can certainly help keep more weight on the inside wheel.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by noone View Post
                  front sway can add a lot of traction
                  ...
                  The much cheaper FSB can certainly help keep more weight on the inside wheel.
                  Unless you have enough body roll to cause serious camber issues, an anti roll bar does the opposite - you lose grip with the extra roll stiffness as weight gets transferred from the inside wheel to the outer one.
                  Unless I've misinterpreted your comment and you are talking about using an aftermarket front antiroll bar that has lower stiffness than stock.

                  What greater roll stiffness does give you is better steering response.
                  Last edited by kaanage; 30-01-2012, 08:59 PM.
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                  • #39
                    Think I will go to pedders tomorrow and order the Toe Correction and hold off on the Swaybar for a bit
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                    • #40
                      Don't want to sound rude, but I think you need some more practice in a powerful FWD. Less is more!
                      Cheap, Fast, Reliable. Choose two.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Stuwey View Post
                        Don't want to sound rude, but I think you need some more practice in a powerful FWD. Less is more!
                        Who was that comment for lol
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                        • #42
                          You!

                          10+ years in hot Minis has certainly taught me how to drive a FWD car fast, and without being all over the shop. I don't scrub/squeal/understeer/run out of brakes or anything like that.

                          I have no LSD, no rear sway, no toe adjustments. just the Bilstein cup kit, some poly bushes in the rear, and some added castor in the front.

                          It just takes time and practice, and usually less right foot.

                          Have you got some added castor in the front of yours?
                          Cheap, Fast, Reliable. Choose two.

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                          • #43
                            No added caster yet, got the camber tops going in this week, camber/caster.

                            Did a track day and seemed to have lots of understeer, with the RSB set on hard, the rear stuck like glue. I have been told the toe correction on the rear will make the car more neutral
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                            • #44
                              Toe-in gives stability at speed.

                              If you're rear wheels are pointing straight/slightly outward, as the weight leans onto the outside tyre, the back of the car will want to track 'out' - ie oversteer.

                              What suspension are you running? Does it have any movement, or is it just bloody stiff?

                              Camber will reduce your inner wheels' contact patch. Castor has no effect on static (straight ahead) camber, but adds more, the more lock you turn in.
                              Cheap, Fast, Reliable. Choose two.

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                              • #45
                                Running KW V1's
                                Whiteline front Lower control arm bushes
                                Whiteline Adjustable RSB

                                I thought putting money into your suspension setup and having everything adjustable so you can set the car up the way you like is the way to go !!!
                                Last edited by vwthunder; 31-01-2012, 08:30 AM.
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