Revo Stage II anyone?

[SidGTi]

Most of you have the APR flash done to your pogs but I thought I'd ask anyways if there was anyone out there that has had the Revo stage II tune done?? I'm wanting to have mine done after I return from holidays.

Results anyone?

The stage 2 tune involves full exhaust, downpipe, hi flow cat, and stage two ECU tune for those that don't know.

[JCM308]

What sort of power figures do they claim with this stage? I know the Stage 1 tune states 158Kw and 300 and something nm.

[SidGTi]

A claim of an increase of 10-15% on top of the standard Revo flash. Whatever that equates to at the wheels he didn't say.

[insanekiwi]

From what I heard:
1) intake
2) exhaust
3) fuel regulator (higher of course)

Stage 2 - according to books in conjunction with all mods above
was stated 195kw or there abouts.

They quoted 158kw at flywheel for stage 1 without mods.

So combining intake + exhaust = probably around 175kw at flywheel + and the ECU - that is probably how they worked it out.

Mind you my car made 127kw at wheels with Seat intake and REVO + stock filter in summer. I am guessing with down pipe / exhaust it should make around 140kw + new ECU - approx 150-155kw at wheels I am guessing.

I dunno if I want to go that far, at the moment there is enough power already I feel... but exhaust is something I want to upgrade.

[noone]

Think those figures might be a bit generous...

Maybe 140 with all those inc the new ECU may be a bit more realistic.

Quoting others, the Downpipe adds the most Horses, with the full exhaust, just a couple on top of that.

After the tune, the next big power hike would be a bigger turbo.

[insanekiwi]

I don't believe 140kw is not possible with just down pipe.

Down pipe has given from 10-15kw at wheels, and from what I have getting approx 127kw at 24 degrees at second run already at quite conservative dyno, I am pretty sure I can reach 140kw with down pipe upgrade.

Full exhaust or Down pipe alone, doesn't seem to make too much difference.

If you look through past threads, you will see this is not impossible.

Those 195kw number is just a number quoted by revo. I do not believe them, but I do believe if that's what they expect, than I don't think 150kw is impossible.

[SidGTi]

Hey there...i just wanted to know where you got that info from? The Stage II info I got from seems very different from yours. I tried googling Stage II revo for Polo GTI and could not find much on it.

So it's the intake, exhaust and regulator upgrades for the next step after the flash?

From what I heard:
1) intake
2) exhaust
3) fuel regulator (higher of course)

Stage 2 - according to books in conjunction with all mods above
was stated 195kw or there abouts.

They quoted 158kw at flywheel for stage 1 without mods.

So combining intake + exhaust = probably around 175kw at flywheel + and the ECU - that is probably how they worked it out.

Mind you my car made 127kw at wheels with Seat intake and REVO + stock filter in summer. I am guessing with down pipe / exhaust it should make around 140kw + new ECU - approx 150-155kw at wheels I am guessing.

I dunno if I want to go that far, at the moment there is enough power already I feel... but exhaust is something I want to upgrade.

[h100vw]

You would need intake, exhaust and regulator before the flash most likely. The regulator would allow the ECU to inject more fuel for less duty cycle on the injectors.

The reason for stage 2 is to make the most out of the hardware mods done. Having a downpipe and exhaust will allow the engine to breathe better. Probably making more boost earlier. Having a front mount would keep intake air temps in check longer, also allow a bit more boost.

Gavin

[insanekiwi]

Got the info from the REVO dealer in NZ.

If my gearbox doesn't crap out, I really wouldn't mind putting the car to revo stage 2... along with all others.

I need the exhaust / fuel regulator. Fuel regulator you can get one from ecs tuning from states for not much. I think I needed 2.5 or 3 bar or something in that line, can't quite recall.

Intake wise, I will just go with SEAT intake (with flap cut out).

I would be happy to get front mount, but at this stage, I will be happy with vent mod on the arch, and if I can get hold of the GTI grill that would be it. New Zealand ever really sees temperature of Australia.

[insanekiwi]

Then I will need
1) better brakes, maybe 312mm upgrade
2) front mount
3) Uprated clutch and flywheel
etc.

Current chassis is tight enough with addition of sway bars... the car is stiff as.
Through a few track days, I know what to expect out of the car and how it behaves. I still need to go back, as the car has changed a little with new 17 inch wheels. At the moment I do not feel as confident as I was on 16" Monzas.

[Tass69]

Revo dosn't do stage 2 in Australia because we have cable driven cars,just done stage 1
with a few mods (no injectors or maf) got 149 ATW with a KO3s,i know hard to believe but true.

[Blitzen]

Revo dosn't do stage 2 in Australia because we have cable driven cars,just done stage 1
with a few mods (no injectors or maf) got 149 ATW with a KO3s,i know hard to believe but true.

I think you'll find that the Polo is Throttle By Wire, and not cable.

That whole post was pretty out of the blue really...

[AcoustiK]

Just on the side;

My car did 130fwkw with
APR tune (tuned before all the other mods)
BMC filter
Forge FMIC
Forge DV
SEAT intake
Custom full exhaust with DP.

Not sure if I should get a retune of the chip if that does any good.

[noone]

with a few mods (no injectors or maf) got 149 ATW with a KO3s,i know hard to believe but true.

Thats an awful lot of power for stock turbo. If it sounds hard to believe, it probably is.

Not saying anything you've said is a lit Tass, more like the Dyno is reading a little happy that day....

What other mods where you running?

[insanekiwi]

Dyno needs to be done on same day, same place, similar temp.

Can't really compare apple to oranges.

REVO 1 with SEAT intake only - at 20 degrees ambient temp. 16" stock wheels with stock tyres - did 127.4kw I think from my memory. This from a second run.

Now I have more mods in place, I should get it dynoed again at same place with same wheels ideally.

In comparison with VR6 supercharged - made 166kw at wheels that day.
A4 1.8T MTM upgrade - did 108kw at wheels I believe - Quattro though.

My peak PSI was 22.1.

I am hoping for 140kw on next run.
I think Stage 2 is a possible option for our GTIs.