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  • #16
    Sorry Philthy, wasn't referring to this specific Chip, thought the question was about chipping in general.

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    • #17
      hey noone thanks for the insight re suspension. I know its an obvious performance upgrade, but i guess i didnt give it enough thought just yet. Now that im used to the tune, i DO find that im losing what could be forward motion when i go WOT.the car squats in the back end and i have a feeling that a stiffer rear end could get the car moving forward faster. Did you find a good reduction of lurch when you put the springs in?
      Last edited by Buller_Scott; 13-04-2009, 02:12 PM.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Buller_Scott View Post
        ....the car squats in the back end and i have a feeling that a stiffer rear end could get the car moving forward faster. Did you find a good reduction of lurch when you put the springs in?
        If you want to stop that squatting in the rear end before running out and grading spring, go to REPCO, or another dealer, and buy a Whiteline Rear Sway Bar. This has 3 firmness settings, comes with everything you need for a proper fitting (less tools), and can be fitted at home in about 30min. Cost is about $220.
        "If can't get behind your troops, feel free to stand in front of them..."

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        • #19
          I found the springs helped the squatting.

          Not sure about the rear sway bar, there are mixed feelings about doing the rear alone.

          Whiteline do a front and rear, another company does a front only.

          Don't know if a sway bar will stop a lot of squatting, thought the sway bar was more to evenly distribute movement across both sets of springs. I don't have experience here or understand the physics, but it seems a little strange to think that a device between both back wheels would have a lot to do in the first 2 inches of travel on take-off.

          When I first got the springs on, the whole car felt more planted, more firm. It didn't feel rougher, just more attached to the road.

          As i drove on, I felt at some speeds on some road surfaces the springs not matching the shocks made the ride more bumpy and that maybe it would have less traction? I guess if you can feel the suspension doing these things, you can adjust the driving accordingly.

          Now after about 400kms on the new setup and some National Park time, think it all works together well.

          If you really want the cornering, I think the full Koni, H&R / Bilsten, etc setups are far superior and you'd know it on the track...

          For my budget, am happy with the results.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by noone View Post
            Sorry Philthy, wasn't referring to this specific Chip, thought the question was about chipping in general.
            Cheers mate, just thought I'd missed some info on this chip.

            Hey Scott. Lcautobits lists the polo 1.8t so I've sent an email off to see what I can find out. I think some of these tuner's websites need an update.. Custom code doesn't have info for Polo GTI's either, but they do map them.

            -Phil

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            • #21
              Yeah, some of the dyno's on the websites look a little straight and estimated to me.

              Always good to see the real thing...

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              • #22
                if you could let us know when you get a reply with the figures, would be awesome thanks

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by noone View Post
                  Not sure about the rear sway bar, there are mixed feelings about doing the rear alone.

                  Whiteline do a front and rear, another company does a front only.

                  Don't know if a sway bar will stop a lot of squatting, thought the sway bar was more to evenly distribute movement across both sets of springs. I don't have experience here or understand the physics, but it seems a little strange to think that a device between both back wheels would have a lot to do in the first 2 inches of travel on take-off.
                  I had the Rear sway bar fitted long before I got the springs fitted(about 6 months). This did help alleviate the squatting in the rear end(A fair bit actually), and was helped out even more when I fitted the stronger springs. Just a suggestion...Take it or leave it.
                  "If can't get behind your troops, feel free to stand in front of them..."

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by noone View Post
                    Yeah, some of the dyno's on the websites look a little straight and estimated to me.

                    Always good to see the real thing...
                    i doubt they would be estimated... they have their own in-house controlled-temperature and humidity dyno room.

                    ask the golf boys in the diesels section, and search it in mk-Vs websites. their maps are really that damn smooth.

                    philthy, i know what you mean- i know these guys do the pog gti, but its not listed on their website. i've seen some arguments on mk 5 golf websites about chippeduk not updating their site, but then others come into the fray, saying that they dont arent really too concerned with website updates, as they're too busy actually creating new maps.

                    example: one guy with a tiguan turbodiesel on this site has already been chipped with ChippedUK and loves it. some of the others are still waiting and hoping for APR to develop a remap for the tiggers.

                    (not saying anything against apr- no doubt many wouldnt look anywhere other than APR as they're tried and true..)

                    p.s. thanks for the review re sway bar. i was thinking springs would be a nice addition, but unfortunately i just cant run the risk of compromising road adhesion with mismatched damper and spring rates- i had a fang up on yarra blvd last night, did 3 laps up and back, and with that little margin for error in some corners, coming unstuck from the road as a result of differing rebound rates, would= very, very bad things.

                    cheers!
                    Last edited by Buller_Scott; 14-04-2009, 12:16 AM.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Blitzen View Post
                      If you want to stop that squatting in the rear end before running out and grading spring, go to REPCO, or another dealer, and buy a Whiteline Rear Sway Bar. This has 3 firmness settings, comes with everything you need for a proper fitting (less tools), and can be fitted at home in about 30min. Cost is about $220.
                      are the front white line sway bars hard to fit?
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by mikepologti View Post
                        are the front white line sway bars hard to fit?
                        Although I havn't got an upgraded front sway bar fitted to mine, I have looked at how to fit one. You would have to remove the entire sub/K frame, which to me is an on hoist job.
                        "If can't get behind your troops, feel free to stand in front of them..."

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                        • #27
                          AWESOME

                          about time Scott, now I think its about you and I met up and went for a good twisties drive and compared notes dont you think
                          VW: it aint just a car, its a way of life
                          There are few things more satisfying in life than finding a solution to a problem and implementing it
                          My Blog: tinkererstales.blogspot.com.au

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by GoLfMan View Post
                            AWESOME

                            about time Scott, now I think its about you and I met up and went for a good twisties drive and compared notes dont you think
                            Awwwwwwww hell yes. Where abouts you live, Josh?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Buller_Scott View Post
                              Awwwwwwww hell yes. Where abouts you live, Josh?
                              mt waverley matey I've got allllll this week off
                              VW: it aint just a car, its a way of life
                              There are few things more satisfying in life than finding a solution to a problem and implementing it
                              My Blog: tinkererstales.blogspot.com.au

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                              • #30
                                Scott, it'd be tops to see dyno results if you ever get the opportunity. I'm paranoid about inlet temps and air/fuel ratio. Perhaps not so relevant for a diesel?? no idea... Coming from a subaru, AF is paramount on all tunes, no one seems to talk about them on the VW's.

                                When anyone gets info for the GTi's, I'm keen to know more.

                                Great write up too.
                                Track Car: 06 Polo GTI Red Devil mkII
                                Daily: 2010 VW Jetta Highline
                                Gone but not forgotten: 08 Polo GTI
                                ** All information I provide is probably incorrect until validated by someone else **

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