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Polo Gti - Pod Vs Seat/bmc

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Petrina Polo View Post
    What does that do anyway... It sucks hard when cold but then closes up after a few seconds.
    Its an air pump for cold starts.
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    • #32
      cold air intake

      One solution would be to knock some holes in the bonnet. Not sure what it would look like but it would certainly get you some fresh air

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      • #33
        UPDATE:::

        With my setup as described above (pod in stock airbox).... my observations are as follows

        After driving for approximately 45 minutes I quickly lifted the hood. The intake pipe around the BOV was a little hot..

        However, The Pod in the stock airbox was cold, the rubber connector to pod was cold, the hose to throttle body was cold... I dont think the pod is taking in any warmer under bonnet temps than the panel filter setup

        The car feels a little stronger but only in the top end of the revs.. Im talking 4500rpm to 6000rpm. Under 4500rpm, I believe both setups are simiar.

        There is heaps of induction noise and you can hear the APR diverter valve woofing away. That is personal preference, some like the quieter setup.

        So if under bonnet temps are still very cool and there is better access to air, does that mean more power?

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        • #34
          Air pump

          Air pump is operated on cold start to inject air into the exhaust to help the cat get to operating temperature, emision regulation. Also cycles sometimes under purge conditions.
          Joe Chu

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          • #35
            Photos please Petrina !!

            I bet it sounds awesome

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            • #36
              Can you explain the APR R1 'noise' a little bit? With my SEAT/K&N/Forge TIP/APR R1 DV setup there is heaps of induction noise but the DV is silent. It only operates when you lift of the accelerator and when I do that apart from the noise of the engine idling down I cannot distinguish a specific sound to the APR DV. I am curious, not that it really worries me because I can still 'feel' the APR DV work awesomely to hold the boost and preventing turbo lag between shifts.
              The pod in the airbox does sound like it could be very good idea that actually works. Whether it gives you much gain over the seat/k&n/Tip setup still remains to be seen but you have reported some positive results none the less.
              APR V2 Tuned, APR Dogbone mount, APR R1 DV, K&N Panel Filter, SEAT Intake, Forge TIP & FSB, Bilstein & H&R, Whiteline RSB, Full Milltek 2.5" exhaust

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              • #37
                I'll post some of my experiment on so people can share their though... I remember a while ago some one blasted me & said that cold air intake doesn't do sh#t, well you can go lol


                All on standard car.
                1st one as petrina explain... best for economy, due to the standard intake snokel



                2nd one not bad, cheap version of BCM... nice grunty noise... not that much improve over performance & economy. May be I didn't plump the cold air pipe in to the front of the box.



                3rd one by far the best on power and cooling air temp due to the batt act as a heat shield... I'm still using this to day

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                • #38
                  kinda surprised really that none has done a dyno with a pod then the seat/k and n setup. i know the k and n /seat setup i think a whole 1kw (yeah i know huge) would be interesting to see the pod on a dyno, if you could see any results at all
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                  • #39
                    wow nice pics, kinda surprised that, that small pod made such a differance.hmm kinda got me thinking about my setup now.
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                    • #40
                      My setup is similar to photo number 3 above but it sits in the stock airbox and utilises the standard snorkel for cold air feed.

                      Basically the same as option 1 but no lid on the airbox.

                      Seriously setup costs no more than $70 and I think there is some benefit in the top end. Low end to mid range I would say unchanged.

                      I think the stock airbox and air feed is not good enough to supply air to the car under high RPM and with chip done.

                      It does feel a little stronger up in the top end.

                      As to the question about the APR diverter valve. Because I have the pod setup you can hear very clearly the car exhale... PFFFFFFFF!!!! every time the car is on boost and you back off throttle. Much like a atmosphere blow off valve. Maybe its only audible on a chipped car??? again some people prefer it quiet
                      Last edited by Petrina Polo; 14-04-2009, 09:53 AM.

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                      • #41
                        Mine is very similar to Petrina's.

                        I have a GFB DV with a stock tune and the noise is reasonably audable ( + advantage of a nice flutter when under boost gear change).

                        I like the idea of the first option above. May look at that instead of a custom cover made as I already have my pod mounted in standard air box. Keeps it looking nice and factory.
                        Cheers,

                        John

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                        • #42
                          Think I'm close to going the Seat intake path, is there a cost effective alternative?

                          The CDA and pod options seem like a whole lotta pain and possible trouble for... Not much?

                          Is there a more cost effective (yet proven) alternative option for good air intake? Is the Seat intake good enough on its own, or is the air filter and other piping going to let it down?
                          Last edited by noone; 15-04-2009, 11:24 PM. Reason: brain spasm

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by noone View Post
                            Think I'm close to going the Seat intake path, is there a cost effective alternative?

                            The panel filter and pod options seem like a whole lotta pain and possible trouble for... Not much?

                            Is there a more cost effective (yet proven) alternative option for good air intake? Is the Seat intake good enough on its own, or is the air filter and other piping going to let it down?
                            the k and n filter combo with the seat, really is the better alternative. with the forge tip this combo gives you alot more high end torqu.

                            mike
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                            • #44
                              We need to either include or exclude the Forge TIP under both scenarios.

                              I think the Pod in airbox gives you more top end power.

                              Mid range I would say no difference.

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                              • #45
                                i still think its all in the intercooler !! But hey!





                                i mean look at the difference and trust me when you feel your inlet manifold after a real abusing session on a hot day its stone cold!



                                and i have a cone filter just on the maf no air feed air box completly removed ! lots of air runs under the bonnet when you remove the full airbox!
                                Last edited by Chrisuk-polo; 18-04-2009, 07:05 AM.

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