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  • LED Globes in 77tsi Reflector Headlamps

    I have been doing some research and hoping for some input from the "pro's"

    The ADR's state that for HID and xenon headlamps washers and auto leveling is required, but not for LED's.

    These are the globes i'm looking at H7 LED Headlight Upgrade Kit | Bloody Bright Lights

    Only thinking about it because the Polo's lights are pretty woeful.. and upgrading to Osram nightbreakers didn't do the trick..

    Any comments or thoughts about legality or light spread?

    Thanks
    Luke
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    I'd say the ADRs haven't kept up with the technology but would think that given light output in the specs these would be treated in the same way as HID from a legal standpoint.
    If it came to it you could possibly argue the technicality of the rules as written...

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    • #3
      Have seen on other forums that you actually get more light output from lights that are 5000k or under. The 6000k ones appear whiter but the output is less.

      Have a look here quite obvious the difference

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      • #4
        I have tried a similar upgrade in my wifes Nissan Dualis, the problem with LED is the gap in the light output (the LEDs are only top and bottom/ left and right vs HID etc 360' light output) so you get a section missing in the output onto the road.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by RUFNIT View Post
          I the problem with LED is the gap in the light output (the LEDs are only top and bottom/ left and right vs HID etc 360' light output) so you get a section missing in the output onto the road.
          I think you'll find a lot of people are more interested in the comparison between halogens and LEDs as opposed to HID - I'm sure OP only mentions HID as there are no ADRs really covering the use of LEDs as main globes like, for instance, the 2015 GTI LED headlight option in this thread.
          You're also looking at people who are comparing $20-$70 Halogens vs ~$130 LED kits as opposed to LED to ~$2000 HID kits.

          I'd be keen to find out more about those kits, given the wiring and fan/heatsink look significant. I'm not sure these would be necessarily plug and play.
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          • #6
            My wife has factory LEDs in her Honda. They are brilliant. They are also worth a big pile of money and have a quite amazing looking lens in front of them to make them work properly.

            So I'd be thinking those aftermarket units won't cut the mustard.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by brad View Post
              They are also worth a big pile of money and have a quite amazing looking lens in front of them to make them work properly.
              Big pile of money? The Jazz has them

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              • #8
                Originally posted by pologti18t View Post
                Big pile of money? The Jazz has them
                I haven't seen the Jazz units but the Odyssey looks similar to these Accord units - I can't see there being much change from $1k for each assembly. Maybe I'm wrong.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ill0gitech View Post
                  I think you'll find a lot of people are more interested in the comparison between halogens and LEDs as opposed to HID - I'm sure OP only mentions HID as there are no ADRs really covering the use of LEDs as main globes like, for instance, the 2015 GTI LED headlight option in this thread.
                  You're also looking at people who are comparing $20-$70 Halogens vs ~$130 LED kits as opposed to LED to ~$2000 HID kits.

                  I'd be keen to find out more about those kits, given the wiring and fan/heatsink look significant. I'm not sure these would be necessarily plug and play.
                  I wouldn't expect the output to be anywhere near the factory Polo GTI LED's, I am just looking for something better than halogen due to the amount of night driving I do.

                  I have been advised that they are plug and play, but even if it isn't I wouldn't have a problem with modding it just a little.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RUFNIT View Post
                    I have tried a similar upgrade in my wifes Nissan Dualis, the problem with LED is the gap in the light output (the LEDs are only top and bottom/ left and right vs HID etc 360' light output) so you get a section missing in the output onto the road.

                    MR
                    Is your wife's Dualis projector or reflector headlamp?
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                    • #11
                      Has anyone checked what voltage the bulbs are getting? The wiring is fairly small so maybe the bulbs aren't getting the full 12v? Possibly it needs relays & a decent gauge harness.
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                      • #12

                        Tested over 16 LED Sets to find the highest quality LED fog light.
                        Right - stock Halogen
                        Left - upgraded LED

                        Wider light output pattern
                        Higher peak light intensity
                        1800lumens vs 900-950

                        Developing a version for low beam H7 at the moment with the manufacture which should blow HID's out of the water and not have the annoying glare either.

                        Unfortunately there are a Lot of LED's on the market that are simply dangerous to use at night time.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by supernovaleds View Post

                          Tested over 16 LED Sets to find the highest quality LED fog light.
                          Right - stock Halogen
                          Left - upgraded LED

                          Wider light output pattern
                          Higher peak light intensity
                          1800lumens vs 900-950

                          Developing a version for low beam H7 at the moment with the manufacture which should blow HID's out of the water and not have the annoying glare either.

                          Unfortunately there are a Lot of LED's on the market that are simply dangerous to use at night time.
                          PM for discounted price (fog lights available for all cars, low and high beam coming soon)
                          Jeez! That looks fantastic!

                          Has any modification been done to the harness to support the LED's?

                          How does the LED cope with the fade on and off of the static corner light function on the fog lights?

                          When your H7 becomes available, I will be very very interested.
                          I Sell Nissans Skodas.
                          IT'S HEREEEEE 18' Skoda Octavia 110tsi Manual Hatch | Race Blue | Tech Pack | Luxury Pack | Panoramic Roof | Turini Alloys | Various VCDS Tweaks | RS Spoiler | Mars Bar Holder
                          R.I.P; 13' VW Polo 77tsi Comfortline Manual | Candy White | Sport Pack | Pioneer AVH X3800DAB + Clarion Bass Pack

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by LukePolo View Post
                            Jeez! That looks fantastic!

                            Has any modification been done to the harness to support the LED's?

                            How does the LED cope with the fade on and off of the static corner light function on the fog lights?

                            When your H7 becomes available, I will be very very interested.
                            They perform differently than the halogens, can be made to perform identically (PWM with internal power supply for modulation from 100-0%)

                            The one thing I noticed straight away is that it lights up EVERYTHING on the sides of the road.
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                            • #15
                              I'll be interested in a set of the h7's too when you get them in

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