77tsi thoughts

[yokom46]

Hey all,

My partner is in the small car market and is going test driving on Saturday,

her options;
-Fiesta
-Swift
-Mazda2
-Polo 77TSI

I own a 6R GTI and having read about the armada of things that could go wrong with the beast, I'm concerned that I should steer her clear of Polo's.

However, there is a tidy Red 77TSI for 19k at a local dealer with a manual box that beckons a test drive.

Thoughts?

[Dutch77]

The Speaker of the House drives a shiny red 77TSI manual and has had no issues whatsoever with it.. and loves it to pieces.

Can understand why you'd potentially want to steer clear, but you'd already know how much better the Polo will be inside and out compared to those other options.

[yokom46]

The Speaker of the House drives a shiny red 77TSI manual and has had no issues whatsoever with it.. and loves it to pieces.

Can understand why you'd potentially want to steer clear, but you'd already know how much better the Polo will be inside and out compared to those other options.

Thanks for the response

[Barracuda]

Couldn't be happier with my 77TSI. Had it for over a year now and almost 12,000kms and not a single issue at all! One or two little creaks in the dash, but nothing a quick fix couldn't solve. Go for it!

[brad]

My car-nut mate bought a 77tsi DSG for his wife. We fitted koni dampers to & made the steering slightly heavier (software change). It's a brilliant car. Almost as much fun as the Lotii he owned. She had a 5yr old Fiesta before (also a great car) but he didn't like the way the new ones had lost all the rearward visibility.

My rule of thumb with wife-cars is not to worry too much about handling & power, etc. As long as they like to drive it.

[yokom46]

My car-nut mate bought a 77tsi DSG for his wife. We fitted koni dampers to & made the steering slightly heavier (software change). It's a brilliant car. Almost as much fun as the Lotii he owned. She had a 5yr old Fiesta before (also a great car) but he didn't like the way the new ones had lost all the rearward visibility.

My rule of thumb with wife-cars is not to worry too much about handling & power, etc. As long as they like to drive it.

Good advice and pretty much what I was thinking.


All the cars are around the same power output anyway, polo has more torque. But she'll be jumping in all of them and doing laps on Saturday


At the end of the day she has to decide whats going to be best for her, I'm just getting all the info for her.

[bigfoot]

Couldn't be happier with my 77TSI. Had it for over a year now and almost 12,000kms and not a single issue at all!

+1

Will be 3 years in September

[Lemonskin]

TBH if I was looking for a runabout and not the performance of the GTI I'd be checking out the Yaris first. Toyota reliability and $130 capped price servicing. Although the Swift Sport is tempting for something Japanese, peppy and a fair bit cheaper than a GTI.

[apples]

The Speaker of the House drives a shiny red 77TSI manual and has had no issues whatsoever with it.. and loves it to pieces.

I love my shiny red polo as well. Had her for 2 years now and haven't had any issues.

[JonP01]

I love my shiny red polo as well. Had her for 2 years now and haven't had any issues.

I love my little 77TSI. It's just perfect. Not one single complaint about it - period. Have never loved any of my cars before but I love this one - in a healthy sort of way. I love it so much I want to die of old age with it. As I said, my love for it is healthy.

[bizarre]

Does she want a manual??

[cappuccino]

Most of the issues in the news relate to the diesel models and DSG models pre 2012.

If you want to be safe get the petrol, I think petrol is better, better drive and fuel efficiency is still very good.

In terms of the DSG gearbox, they changed from the Q200 to Q250 model on 2012 builds onwards, this is why the recall is for up to 2011 builds. The latest builds are not being recalled. Id imagine they are actually replacing the Q200 gearboxs with Q250, at least the mechcanronics.

Now cant say the latest gearbox may not have issues given its only been in production for a year, but you can imagine they would have worked out most of the problems.

To be super safe, get a manual petrol.

I went for the comfortline 77TSI DSG petrol late 2012 build, did have a issue with limp mode kicking in when at the lights, but a software update has since fixed it. No problems since them.

I was prepared to take the risk of DSG since it was updated in 2012 model and there does not seem to be as many reports of issues with it like pre 2012 builds.

You do have 5 year warranty now on gearbox and engine, the whole drive train. just get from good dealer who will do warranty repairs without a fuss. Denlo Parramatta are pretty good, they replaced my friends gearbox once, and turbo three times under warranty no fuss no charge on his 2011 build. Some dealers may fob you off or try to charge. understandable if VW does not want to pay dealer to do repair. i think each dealer has different relation with VW depending how big they are / important to them.

BTW, dont get base model, get comfortline at the least, you want that turbo and things like steering controls.

[alexaescht]

In terms of the DSG gearbox, they changed from the Q200 to Q250 model on 2012 builds onwards, this is why the recall is for up to 2011 builds. The latest builds are not being recalled. Id imagine they are actually replacing the Q200 gearboxes with Q250, at least the mechatronics.

Now cant say the latest gearbox may not have issues given its only been in production for a year, but you can imagine they would have worked out most of the problems.

To be super safe, get a manual petrol.

They're actually using the same DQ200 as before, just with revised clutch plates, mechatronics and software. If they were using the DQ250 then yours would be a 6-speed and I can guarantee that yours isn't.

As for the rest of your post, I agree with the 77 TSI Manual combo – the DSG's are risky and the TDI's can be problematic (at least for us).
If we were ever to buy another Polo, we'd go for the 77 TSI manual for sure.

[Sword_Dude]

have had a 77TSI manual for 2 years, great car.

there are zero recall issues with petrol manual so go for it so don't be concerned with the latest hype.

[Barracuda]

TBH if I was looking for a runabout and not the performance of the GTI I'd be checking out the Yaris first. Toyota reliability and $130 capped price servicing. Although the Swift Sport is tempting for something Japanese, peppy and a fair bit cheaper than a GTI.

The Yaris may be reliable and cheap to maintain but life suddenly becomes so depressing when you step inside the interior of one. Hard Plastics... Hard Plastics Everywhere! They also have the same level of driving refinement as a tractor.